I agree with that. However, as I’ve discussed in other areas, the theft itself may be too far gone to catch the criminals. It’s akin to a crime from past generations, since AI research is so fast.
So while there’s a problem and a crime and victims… how do we best handle it? A full shutdown, ban, or do-over is not realistic. It’s interesting how Fuck AI and Fuck Cars have a similar dilemma of agreeing there’s a problem created a while ago, but any move to fix it is glacial because of the scope of the problem.
I agree with that. However, as I’ve discussed in other areas, the theft itself may be too far gone to catch the criminals. It’s akin to a crime from past generations, since AI research is so fast.
Bullshit.
The crime is happening right here, right now. Our ancestors put slavery, child labor, robber barons, and segregation to an end, and yet we are somehow powerless to stop corporations from being beholden to the very copyright laws that they helped create?
Agreed again. We should be able to do better. However, it’s interesting the list of other crimes you compare to it and call ended… are they? Also, the corporations are in power, so of course, using the very system they control to stop them is not going to work.
Don’t be mad at me for pointing out the guy behind the curtain. I’m with you in the frustration and rage; I’ve just participated too long in the “we should do something” bandwagon to believe it much anymore.
Second, laws and regulation doing prevent people from doing bad things, they only disincentivize them. A life sentence for murder sadly doesn’t prevent murders from happening. But we agree that it’s important to dissuade would-be murderers.
I just don’t like the defeatist attitude around this stuff. We can fight this exploitation of workers and creatives, and we should. This is not a legitimate way to do business.
OMG how did you know these are the (only) two “fuck” communities I have subscribed?😳
Cars can be fucked by legislation. See how Amsterdam mostly achieved it. You can ban cars in a certain area. But fuck AI? We can shut down all AI companies in an area, but how do we also ban all AI companies in the whole world?
I agree with that. However, as I’ve discussed in other areas, the theft itself may be too far gone to catch the criminals. It’s akin to a crime from past generations, since AI research is so fast.
So while there’s a problem and a crime and victims… how do we best handle it? A full shutdown, ban, or do-over is not realistic. It’s interesting how Fuck AI and Fuck Cars have a similar dilemma of agreeing there’s a problem created a while ago, but any move to fix it is glacial because of the scope of the problem.
Bullshit.
The crime is happening right here, right now. Our ancestors put slavery, child labor, robber barons, and segregation to an end, and yet we are somehow powerless to stop corporations from being beholden to the very copyright laws that they helped create?
Bull-shit, my friend. We can do better.
Agreed again. We should be able to do better. However, it’s interesting the list of other crimes you compare to it and call ended… are they? Also, the corporations are in power, so of course, using the very system they control to stop them is not going to work.
Don’t be mad at me for pointing out the guy behind the curtain. I’m with you in the frustration and rage; I’ve just participated too long in the “we should do something” bandwagon to believe it much anymore.
First, I’m not mad at you. 😅
Second, laws and regulation doing prevent people from doing bad things, they only disincentivize them. A life sentence for murder sadly doesn’t prevent murders from happening. But we agree that it’s important to dissuade would-be murderers.
I just don’t like the defeatist attitude around this stuff. We can fight this exploitation of workers and creatives, and we should. This is not a legitimate way to do business.
OMG how did you know these are the (only) two “fuck” communities I have subscribed?😳
Cars can be fucked by legislation. See how Amsterdam mostly achieved it. You can ban cars in a certain area. But fuck AI? We can shut down all AI companies in an area, but how do we also ban all AI companies in the whole world?
We can’t even ban drugs on Earth as a whole.