The Republican president has previously referred to fallen American service personnel as “suckers” and “losers.” He has never served in the military, having in fact dodged the Vietnam War draft on five occasions. The last of those owed to a bone spur diagnosis. It’s a condition that usually affects elderly individuals. He was 22 at the time.
Trump has similarly threatened to invade U.S. allies Panama, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, and Greenland, which is an autonomous territory of Denmark, a fellow NATO member.
The MAGA president’s growing, campaign-promise-busting appetite for military engagement also comes amid his bitter disappointment at being passed over for last year’s Nobel Peace Prize, despite a concerted public and private push by his allies. It was previously awarded to his Democratic predecessor, President Barack Obama.
In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.”
The Norwegian government is not affiliated with the Nobel Committee, which decides independently to whom it will grant its awards. Trump’s claim to have stopped eight wars remains highly disputed.
He’s literally paraphrasing Farquaad at this point.
“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make!”
I wonder if he’d be a better person if he’d seen Shrek as a child. I know Shrek is Dreamworks, but has anyone tried sitting him down and showing him Pixar’s catalogue? Maybe something humane will click… I’d start with Inside Out, and then maybe freak him out a bit with Up.
Who am I kidding, he’d probably walk away in the end thinking “What was the point of that? I’m already trying to do Wall-E.”
You think Trump could follow an entire film without falling asleep?
I doubt it
He has no sense of self or human life, only power and money. And all, for each one multiple instances, of the seven deadly sins.
He wouldn’t understand why the grandpa doesn’t fuck the kid.
The pedo sack of shit and his thugs strike again by murdering innocent people and wasting billions from the US treasury. All this shit to distract from the Epstein files.
It’s not just to distract from the Epstein files, that’s a sweet little benefit of course, but it’s mainly just a continuation of the exact same US imperialism that has been ignored for nearly a century. They didn’t need Epstein files to invade Afghanistan, or Iraq, or any of the dozens of nations subjected to US interventionism. The Epstein class have been fucking all of us over for decades, they just enjoy it with kids more.
Read Daniel Immerwahr’s book, “How to Hide an Empire.”
Its part of Facist takeovers.
Overwhelm the public with controversial news so they burn out.
Its outlined in the book “On Tyranny” and aligns well with present day.
In a week, they’ll be dropping MORE Epstein Files, to distract from the atrocities they’ll be committing in Iran.
“Hey, who’s got a map of all the elementary schools and children’s hospitals?” - Pete Hegseth
Good point.
Wag-the-dog in real life
And also many hundreds or thousands of times as many Iranian civilians.
In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.”
This is revolting, we are fucked. What a weenie
…he knows the Nobel Committee is a private entity right?
i think he’s pretty clearly demonstrated he doesn’t understand the Nobel committee even a little bit
No, he doesn’t know that, he’s virtuosically stupid.
“Weenie” is a pretty gentle choice of wordage.
Yeah, I save Weenie for the weak, cowardly Democrats. MAGAs deserve much worse labels, like Traitor, and Pedophile.
Imagine dying to protect a paedo from the repercussions of his many decades of raping children.
Here lies Chad DudeMcHamburger.
Blown to pieces in Iran for a person who didn’t, and still doesn’t, give a shit about anyone, even his own children.
Rest in peace knowing that you were a distraction from the kiddie fiddling for a few days.
RIP.You guys are so fucking cooked down there.
This is a worldwide epidemic of unrestricted capital. You’re next beaverboy.
“Canada supports the United States acting to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and to prevent its regime from threatening international peace and security,” Carney said in a speech at the Canada-India Growth and Investment Forum in Mumbai on Saturday."
Oh gee, thank god I have an American telling me about this. I surely didnt already know this about my own country.
Anyway we arent running around shooting people in the head in the middle of the street so yeah, we arent even close to how fucked you guys are.
Yah, you’re a completely different species up there, I forgot about that.
A species somehow capable of admitting that they are heading towards the same problem but somehow also finding something to feel superior about.
You arnt running around shooting people yet! Canada has a solid history of war crimes, murder, and generally being some extremely vile people in times of turmoil.
Oh my goodness we do?! What would we do without Americans enlightening us. I had no idea. Boy you guys are so helpful.
Here is the differnce. Canada has an entire government panel on Truth and Reconciliation and is actively working with First Nations to implement self-governance for Indigenous communities.
The US is trying to deport Indigenous Americans.
We won’t be the only ones
Can someone explain to me why the Trump administration isn’t afraid of a military coup?
This may seem surface-level but . . .
Pick any base. You cannot visit the NEX, gym, medical, dental, squadron spaces, offices, or any other similar space on base without seeing Fox or similar Conserv卐tive propaganda playing 24/7.
The military minds are perfectly programmed with this shit.
you nailed it completely.
The military is 95% Trump supporters
An estimated 15/20% of Iranians are hardcore supporters of the theocratic regime that Trumpstein says he wants to remove. That 15/20% is violent and well-armed enough that they can effectively keep the rest of the population repressed. And from what it looks like right now, even if their ability to project power outside of Iran has been hit, they still have that power internally (and dismantling it would require the US and Israel to put boots on the ground and have many more casualties for a much longer time than they are willing to).
So, it apparently only takes 15/20% of violent, well armed fanatics to hold a whole country captive. Probably less, with good surveillance tech. Now let’s do the MAGA math and see who should be afraid of a coup…
Because americans are a joke
Could you imagine if ol’ bone spurs had actually went to Vietnam?
I can’t. If fortunate sons were sent to wars, there’d be no wars.
While I agree with the sentiment, you don’t have to go much more than 100 years back before it was common that the upper class led armies more or less from the front. For long stretches of history, leading from the front and in general being in the army has been one of the ways the upper class has held on to its power.
Cool that’s not how it works now
The point is that history has shown us that people will wage war for profit even if it means putting themselves and their children at risk by being directly involved in hostilities.
The whole “we wouldn’t have wars if rich people and their kids had to fight in them” idea just doesn’t hold up to historical precedent. People with power are likely to start wars regardless, because they see it as a means of increasing their power.
This hadn’t been true for a long time.
I honestly don’t see what you mean? It’s true that people in power have waged war on each other more or less throughout all of known history, no?
Whether or not said people had to actually take part in hostilities doesn’t seem to have much impact on whether they choose to wage war. Or do you have a counter example (a society that has changed whether it waged a bunch of wars based on whether its leaders had to fight in them)?
I think you’re trying to counter something I didn’t say, lol. I never said “we wouldn’t have wars if rich people and their kids had to fight in them”.
I said “Cool that’s not how it works now” because it’s a century later than the war paradigm you described and that’s not how it works anymore.
In that case, sorry I guess? Since I myself pointed out that that’s how it worked over 100 years ago I thought it was pretty obvious I was aware it didn’t work that way anymore, so I interpreted your comment as refuting my primary point (the one stated explicitly above). If that’s not what you meant to do then I don’t think we really have any disagreement.
Good point. I did not look too far back indeed. It would be interesting to know at what point that shift happened. Was it because of a weapons upgrade, or the increased complexity of the state, or … ?
To be fair it probably came from the fact that armies that protected strategic leaders at the expense of common soldiers were, over time, more effective. Military doctrine has a tendency to shift towards whatever works best, because the armies that don’t adopt it lose wars and don’t get to keep fighting.
Strategic leaders seem more a thing of the past, few would suspect Trump of being strategic, so I think I’m misunderstanding the point here. If Trump were taken out by an enemy from afar, it would not impact the US strategy, right?
Having let this entire discussion sink in a bit, it might also have to do with the decreasing influence of religion on leaders. Where in earlier times honour before God was an incentive for a king to fight among soldiers, such considerations may have vanished since the Enlightenment. But I’m not a historian, just pulling this out of my behind, :)
With respect to strategic leaders I was more referring to officers than political leaders. Historically, the path from military power to political power was also shorter: A common way to get political power was to first establish yourself as a high ranking officer.
This whole pipeline of “protecting officers, because it makes militarily sense” via “high ranking officers often end up with political power” to todays situation seems a rather natural development to me.
ahhh thanks for the clarification, indeed that seems totally plausible!
I’m making a guess but probably about the point somebody in a perch half a mile away could snipe said leader who was obviously showing rank and “leading from the front” haha.
Would an archer be able to do that? A spearman? Happened in 300 but I doubt that was accurate ;)
Grenading hopefully.
The suspension of disbelief that this giant orange milksop would ever enlist or fight for anything is too great, sorry.
americans behave like cattle
A lot of them look like cattle too
An insult to cattle…
Send the maga maggots first
Many of them are in the military. I feel bad for the members that aren’t and just want to finish their enlistment or retire.
The American military consists entirely of volunteers and their track record has been well-established for decades now. Anyone who signed up or re-upped after the War on Terror knew what they were getting into.
I disagree. Trump first term and Biden were anti new wars. That was 8 years of draw dawn (really longer than that as Obama started the draw down and ended the Afghan war). Enough time to convince a high schooler to join. Also, don’t forget that the military is probably the best social mobility apparatus in the US. When I joined i was working at Walmart, when I got it I was making over 6 figures with a 4 year degree and no student debt. In 2020 I was at 10 years and made the decision to get out. Sometimes I think about how I would only be 4 years away from a pension right now, but I would be asked to commit war crimes; and I’m very glad I didn’t try to stick it out. It’s not as simple as you make it sound. Many of our troops are just people trying to get ahead in life.
Trump in his first term was responsible for a lot of people choosing retirement over promotion.
Sadly that left the Conserv卐tives behind on active duty.
Like I said, I chose to get out. But honestly back then Trump wasn’t even a factor in that decision. The generals were still doing their job making sure his crazy ideas were held back. Remember at the start of this second term they fired a bunch of generals because Trump wanted generals like Hitler had.
Saying “They do it for the money” isn’t much of a defence.
Oh yeah, and why do you do your job?
Indeed, the useless racist neo-Nazi fucks voted for this BS. Will Krasnov encourage his sons to join the US military and fight, fight, fight?
Go and die for your overlords then. Fucking disgrace of a country and I hope we fail.
Yes, but that’s a price he’s perfectly willing to pay. Until the country in question bends the knee to the new emperor orangue - Lord President Trumpsky will slaughter as many people as he needs, American, enemy, doesn’t matter… it’s a money thing. Has nothing to do with countries - people like trump think they’re above countries.
I hear he’s going to start up the draft again. They need bodies to toss into the mulching machine. 18 (or earlier) to 40 eligible for the draft. Hillbilly shitkicking goat roping jerkoffs welcome of any age. You old fat guys make good sand bags.
It’s still crazy to me he said it out loud. I was certain he wouldn’t address it
Man i hope these fuckers die there.
Hopefully some will do the right thing.
But, but, but “peace president”!
He literally said, “Fuck it and fuck all y’all. No peace prize? No peace!”
But I bet the DOW goes over 50K…
