Not just hate, we have seen repeated, glaring, public proof that America’s leadership is
- Weak
- Dishonorable
- Cowardly
- Hypocritical
- Uneducated
- Racist
- Compulsive liars
- Almost broke
There’s more but they start to sound like synonyms after a few hundred.
While not the entire list, that applies not to just MAGA but to the Democrats as well. We’re ruled over by conservative parties and wealthy elite.
I don’t distinguish my disdain for your ruling class by party affiliation. They are all awful.
Know what, that’s more than fair. Even inside it’s getting harder to distinguish the two.
Also rapists and pedos. Murderers. Cannibals.
Not that equalising the trade deficit would actually make everyone’s lives better in any way because it’s a stupid metric to be concerned with.
It’s like being concerned at the supermarket never buys anything off you. If you voice that opinion in public people would think you were weird.
I feel that with many actors that come out with public issue statements. People probably feel the same about my idols.
What is one thing we should be concerned about?
Water!
mL, Ltr
Basic global goals ✨
I can’t keep watching people act surprised about this.
Trump’s administration is not trying to successfully accomplish anything. The sole and entire point is to hurt America at the behest of foreign interests. Making the world hate us is the point.
Well, that, and to enrich himself and his regime.
When you hire pirates to attack a ship, you expect a little looting.
And raping
And killing.
Oh yeah it is the “foreign interests” harm you and not your own shit hole corrupt criminal settler society. You are doing this shit to yourselves because the US has always been an illegitimate genocidal settler society. You are the bad guys, stop blaming other people for your failures.
Well if you want to cast stones we learned it from corrupt criminal colonial Europeans who were doing it first. Europe is full of illegitimate genocidal settler societies. You are the bad guys. Stop blaming other people for your failures.
Sounds pretty fucking stupid right?
I am neither American nor European. Fuck Europe. It is the origin of all the most horrible shit on earth and has no right to exist and prosper on the wealth extracted from the global south.
Nuance. Two things can be true. We are doing this to ourselves, but not in a vacuum. And if you want to destroy a house, the best way isn’t to send a man with a hammer, it’s to give the kids inside a soccer ball and tell them their parents said “play ball!”
Countless terrible groups and people have been set loose with their own individual agendas and goals, yes, but that’s as part of a greater plan whose only goal is to harm America and its interests and allies.
There’s plenty of blame to share, I promise.
There is no nuance here. It is pure projection. Your shithole yank government is the one with military bases around the world and regularly destroy other countries. You are not being manipulated by Russia or foreign governments, you are being manipulated by American born and raised billionaire Nazi’s that are 100% pure American. Stop blaming other people for your failings. The idea that you are under attack is pure fiction cooked up by your literally evil masters to justify their horrific politics and violence. America’s interests are and have always been violence, exploitation and extraction.
There is no nuance here
A statement wise and truthful people say all the time
Thank you.
Not for nothing. Trump and his friends made butt loads of money!!! And any day that money is going to come trickling down to the average Joe just like it’s supposed to… any day now.
Ahh, here it comes now! Oh wait, that’s just the same sewage.
How do you have a trade surplus in a consumer society? How do people not see how stupid the trade deficit excuse is? Are Americans that uneducated?
most people dont take classes that go this deep in economy, or even economy courses. its too keep people ignorant.
So the answer is yes.
When it’s not working, it’s working.
There has got to be a long German word for the feeling which is essentially incandescent fury but at the same time sorrow/pity.
But think how much money it all made for mysterious shareholders! /s
I visited one of my customers yesterday, a metal anodizing plant. Only the owner was there, he told me they had no orders to fill and that he hadn’t seen anything like this since 2008
In all fairness, half the world hated you before. Now you just managed to convince the other half they were right.
I listen to a military podcast and they seem surprised that the US threatening to invade another NATO country was such a big deal for Europeans. 🙈
And also a LOT of Americans.
The other half being your friends and allies though.
So basically you’ve been a POS the entire time but had some nice aspects to your character that you showed exlusively around your friends and family, but that facade you’ve now also dropped which made even them hate you.
Let’s not pretend that the allies liked the US before either. The US has been side-eyed by all of the developed world since at least the W. Bush era. It’s been more of a “that dude is a bully, but smile and nod and he’ll hopefully steal someone else’s lunch money instead of ours, and maybe Russia will think we’re friends and not steal our lunch money either”. Now he’s teaming up with Russia and going after everyone’s lunch money.
As a Canadian, the US was like a brother; maybe a bit rough around the edges bit still a close family bond. Now, it’s like the brother has a meth addiction and stole a bunch of your stuff. There’s a deep sense of betrayal that will last decades, assuming he goes into rehab and attones and doesn’t completely ruin things forever.
I’m not saying the US can’t recover from this, Germany came back from worse after all, but it would take a long time. And I imagine the US turnaround would be more like Japan (pretend everything was very legal and very cool) than the full reckoning Germany had.
Although the US does love flip-flopping between extremes, so who knows? Just like they went from assaulting soldiers returning from Vietnam to compulsively thanking everyone for their service, maybe they’ll be all woke and friendly next? Too bad it takes so little for them to flip-flop back again, so you can’t really trust it.
My armchair prediction is that even if Democrats manage to gain back control of power in the US, many countries will now be skeptical of entering any arrangements with them for longer than 2-4 years. US voters have now shown a propensity for electing and re-electing a leader that is able to come in and comprehensively dismantle decades of intense diplomacy and geopolitical navigation in a short period of time. As such, wise leaders of other nations won’t be willing to enter long-term arrangements that last beyond a given administration anymore.
I made this exact argument on another forum 20 years ago. It was true then. Now I think you need to severely escalate your analogy.
Those nice aspects were fake performances that only existed to obfuscate any suspicions that we might have been the bad guy all along.
Now that everything is out in the light and our objectors have been proven right maybe we can be forced to change or be ostracized until we do. Our friends and allies are better off without us until then.
Those nice aspects were probably rose-tinted nostalgia of what we remeniscence the USA to be, the gallantrous saviour from Nazi-Germany. It took us 80 years to realize that that gallantry was only during WW2 and maybe not even then.
Rose-tinted nostalgia that was purposely manufactured through pervasive mass-media and institutionalized propaganda. The US population has been heavily indoctrinated ever since the 1950s and the second Red Scare/McCarthyism.
People are nostalgic for something that didn’t exist because they grew up on stories and teachings that were utter fabrications of events which overplayed the US’s role in WW2 and downplayed the atrocities we committed to our own people and those abroad in our Imperialist quest to cement capitalism as the global economy and stifle the growing wave of communist sentiment that was on the rise during the early-to-mid 1900s.
it wasnt for nothing. it made stupid magats happy! and the world is now moving away from the usa as a trade partner.
sO mUcH WiNniNg
It also made some obscenely wealthy people even more wealthy! All hail the Demiurge!
At least in the short term. But the ghouls are happy to just make everybody poorer so they can still feel superior.
As a Canadian. I’m happy. We are less dependent on you. And getting stronger.
im british
Sorry about that.
You mean “Sorery aboot that, eh?”
You poor thing.
Thank you for your people’s music, movies, TV and cheese.
Edit: and BOOZE! How could I have forgotten the booze?!?
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It got Trump’s dick hard as well. Can’t forget that.
Oh yes I can
The good news is all that money you paid Is going straight out of the governments coffers and back to corporations with no obligation to pay you back.
Oh, also, you have a new hundred billion dollar hole in your budget because that was to pay for the billionaires tax cuts.
I lost my job because of cuts in May. I haven’t been able to find full time employment since. I’m not sure I’m going to recover.
both my brothers are in tech, one got laid of in '23 and stillhavnt found a job, although he is having a “personal crisis”. and the other has been put on a bench “indefinitely” since they are using a recruiting company, they took him off projects with APPLE.
I was a developer. I’ve been getting project management certifications to career pivot. I would like to go back to tech, but I’m gaining skills to leave the industry. I can’t survive another year without a full time job that pays moderately.
Idle hands are the tool of the devil. Surely you can put your talents to use against a system that’s destroying you.
Everyone wants me to make sacrifices without ever lifting a finger to help me. I’m too busy upskilling, job hunting, and doing part time physical labor.
I’ll tell you what you send me help with bills, my mortgage, or food then we’ll talk about me doing something you want me to do.
Genuine attempt at being helpful:
Can you sell the house and rent instead?
Got any cars you or the family rarely use?
Basically: Can you downsize and give yourself / your family more padding in savings, less ongoing costs?
With all due respect if I lose my house then life isn’t worth living anymore. I don’t own a car. I don’t have a family.
Could you rent out a room?
Classic “bootstraps” call lol
I’m about to eat my bootstraps.
Make sure you season them properly
Well said.
Edit: I wasn’t asking for sacrifices. Just suggesting ways you could help yourself if you found yourself with time on your hands.
Untrue. We paid extra to fund tax breaks for billionaires while food prices tripled and 1,206,374 people were laid off in order to keep those record profits going.
dont forget the aca enhanced subsidies ended, and people saw thier insurance double or tripled or more in premiums/deductibles.
That’s right. We shouldn’t live. That’s too costly! We must sacrifice ourselves on the pyre of privatised healthcare so that the superyachts get built on time.
The rapists and their followers got richer though, and more authoritarian regimes are coming along nicely while cooperation and peace are suppressed
