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    Back in my day we extruded our own polyester film, coated it with our own rust and cut them into discs free hand! All that for 170K of storage!

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      Yeah. This shit comes around once or twice a year. It’s something to make the younger generations feel special and distanced from their predecessors.

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      Yeah. This shit comes around once or twice a year. It’s something to make the younger generations feel special and distanced from their predecessors.

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      No. Millenials barely remember floppies. From that point down younger generations have no fucking idea what they are

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        What are you on about Millenials barely remembering floppies? We grew up using them until at least highschool, even if other writable media existed before then.

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      I worked with an engineering software that was developed by a Christian team, they put a cross as the Save Icon. Cuz Jesus Saves. It was a good Dad joke so I had to let it slide.

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    It is only mid 2020s and people already asking such questions. Imagine late 2030s or even 2040s.

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      I saw plenty of couples in Japan with several kids when I visited tourist sites. Of course, there could be a bit of a survivor bias there…

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        Probably from one of those kid renting agencies they have over there. They just rent them for the afternoon. It’s not like they’d have the space at home anyway.

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        What you’ve probably seen are androids developed by Japanese government to convince people that we’re actually thriving. Dont be deceived.

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    Programs using this icon should restrict their file size to 1.44 MB. Everything else is just false advertising.

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          I replaced my jazz drive when burners became more popular and cheaper. I could buy 100 cdrs for the price of a zip disk. I only had a zip drive to begin with so I could work on my high school projects in computer graphics class from home (ah, going back and forth between Windows and Mac in 1999… it sucked)

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            Yeah, Zip disks suuuucked. I always had to carry two for redundancy because they failed to read so often. Even having every second or third CD burn fail, because you looked at it wrong, was more reliable than Zip disks.

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              Error: Buffer Underrun

              Frisbee time!!! Wheeee!

              This is the reason I haven’t thought too hard on bluray discs… $5 to $11 per disc…

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          Zip disks were originally launched with capacities of 100 MB, then 250 MB, and finally 750 MB.

          Congrats, you win! 🥳

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          I had my best porn on one of those as a youth (because it meant nothing visible on my computer unless I wanted it to be) and then the drive died one day. RIP hours of downloading, plus all my games and music on my more legit disks.

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    You think it’s bad that the save icons have floppy disks?

    A while ago, I was wondering why the usual icon for “database” (upright cylinder divided into multiple horizontal slices) looks like the original flowchart symbol for drum memory, further refined to look like a 1960s hard drive, you know, one of those washing machine sized units. But then again, if you have a serious database, chances are it’s running on some several layers deep virtualised replica of a 1960s system

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        If your discord server is inundated with people who have no idea which one of these damn buttons save, yeah. I saw the same thing happen on a PHPBB in 2010. To many, that icon means nothing.

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          icons are basically ideograms. floppy disks might be the etymology of the save icon, but kids will learn it means “save” the same way Chinese kids learn that 人 means “person” (a simplified rendering of the original Bone Oracle glyph, which depicted a person from the side)

          as another example, you used the word “inundated” which comes from the Latin unda meaning “wave,” as in waves overcoming a building. but you learned to use that word without needing the history lesson behind it.

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            Sure, except when they don’t. Like what happened with that dev on that board in 2010.

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              How do play, pause, or stop icons mean anything? They were around for decades before me and I just learned that was how those actions were communicated.

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                Likely in the way that the previous commenter described. They’re not wrong, it just wasn’t a question of how. It was more that sometimes the transmission of information fails.

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      These days I’m starting to see more and more of an arrow pointing down towards a hard drive, a file folder, or an outbox bin. I feel like that’s a suitable replacement.

      Simple icon line art of an arrow pointing down towards a paper outbox bin

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      have brains

      Shoot, that’s an understatement. The Japanese people I’ve read online and met in person tended to be a whole lot more educated than the average Joe. Their education system seems pretty solid.

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        Does Japan not have the fervent anti intellectualism that we have in the US with our right wing? And it’s not in bed with racism to fuck public education together?

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      Remember the cinnamon challenge? It was just like a handful of weirdos doing it and in international news, they said it was average Americans because of our underfunded education system.

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    The other day I got a press release about disaster preparedness for grade school kids.

    It made mention of teaching kids how to use a battery powered radio to get information. And it suddenly struck me that my 8 year old nephew likely has never even SEEN an FM radio, much less would know how to tune one to a specific station.

    Shit like that makes me feel reaaaaaaallllly old…

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        Sure, in a technical sense, that’s true - the car radio in our 2025 Hyundai i10 is a DAB+ radio, which supposedly still has backup FM capability. Which is never used, as you just pick the station from a list. It’s never used anyway - I much prefer podcasts.

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      My elderly father was confused when he bought an old style fm radio and found out it was only a Bluetooth speaker.

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      I’m in my 30s and really never actually used an old radio like that. Like there were some laying around that nobody used anymore and I kind of played with them as a kid, but I’m right on the cusp of not knowing how to use one.

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        25 soon to be 26, my family liked to camp out in the Mojave when I was a kid so I do know how to use them but even for me I am far more familiar with stereos .

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            Actually that changed quite a long time ago. Even when FM radio was still a thing, most “receivers” stopped including radio and “tuners” became on external component that not everybody bought. I think our “stereo” in the 80’s had a stand-alone tuner even. That is for a real “stereo”. Boom boxes and the like had it all built in.

            The other factor of course is that tuners went digital. Most factory car stereos continue to include digital tuners even today.

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            Fair enough but I ain’t using the radio element most of the time. I’m using the 8 track, cassette, record, or CD players not really a radio guy it’s been shit for my entire life.

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        WiFi is of course radio. We just tune in and listen to it differently.

        If you limited your bandwidth to 20 or 30 kHz, you could build a “radio” that you manually tune to a WiFi channel frequency and that produces audible noise. You could then build a 1980’s style modem to convert the audio back into a bitstream that you could run your network connection over.

        It would be about many times slower than standard Wifi though modern compression could speed that up a bit.

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          WiFi is of course radio. We just tune in and listen to it differently.

          Yeah, absolutely no channel hopping

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      A <- ox

      B <- house

      C <- some kind of weapon we don’t even have a name anymore

      D <- fish

      And so on. This set has been running around for half of the world for thousands of years and yet nobody thinks it’s a problem.

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      I wonder what other artefacts like that we have.

      I’m sure some streamers use “Tune in”, which refers to radio dialing.

      “Dashboard” means a whole lot of things, but originally meant a board on a carriage that prevents mud from being “dashed” up to the passengers by horses (I think).

      Uh…“meal” is literally a kind of grain that most people probably don’t eat regularly at all, let alone 3x a day.

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      What in the flying fuck is wrong with Jerboa for Lemmy? I can’t scroll up past this image now…

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        That happens from time to time. I haven’t been able to find out why, or I’d report it. Leaving and reopening the thread fixes it.

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          No, that didn’t fix it. After more comments accumulated, the glitch just shifted to a different image comment. Glitch still exists, and I’ve reported and updated my findings with the Jerboa developers community.

          Edit: If you care to follow, here’s my post to the Jerboa community…

          https://lemmy.world/post/38766857

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        Yeah, I’ve been having trouble with my feeds not refreshing once I’ve scrolled down to the “bottom” of what has initially loaded. Been driving me bonkers. Shame, because I rather like Jerboa, but I’m probably going to start scouting for alternatives or sacrifice convenience and stick to a desktop browser.

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          I find myself happy enough with Jerboa. I don’t often experience bugs, but when I do, I make a point to report it to their dev team. They do listen and make a point to iron out the bugs, eventually…

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          Running version 0.0.84, so pretty recent if not the latest.

          I went back to check again after more comments accumulated, and now that image isn’t causing the glitch, but another image is.

          I dunno what’s up, but I messaged the Jerboa community with my findings. 🤷

          Scroll through all the comments, then try scrolling back up to the top, see what if anything happens. It’s buggy here…

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            Ok, yeah I’m seeing the issue now, I can scroll down, but ‘infinite’ scroll back up so to speak, where is just throwing what I’m viewing back down a handful of posts etc. Hopefully an easy enough fix for them.

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              Someone else looked into Jerboa bug reports and found a bug ticket for this very issue as far back as Jerboa 0.0.77

              https://github.com/LemmyNet/jerboa/issues/1711

              The tricky part with weird bugs like this is stumbling into a post that somehow triggers the bug. I have no clue what’s causing it, but I made sure to pass the info to the developer community.