The power and influence of billionaire tech companies over the government is enormous. Ofcourse workers don’t have any rights in america, none is lobbying for them lol, nobody in Washington is fighting for us
- A measure you would normally impose on convicted criminals or terrorist leaders is now being used by the U.S. against these three people:
- former EU Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was responsible for European legislation including on social media;
- Imran Ahmed, who researches online hate, A US judge has temporarily blocked the detention of British social media campaigner Imran Ahmed, who took legal action against the US government over having his visa removed. Mr Ahmed, a US permanent resident, had warned that being detained and possibly deported would tear him away from his American wife and child. 😳;
- and Clare Melford, who maps disinformation with her organization.
- Trumps inauguration lmao
- A measure you would normally impose on convicted criminals or terrorist leaders is now being used by the U.S. against these three people:
Time again for the classic Sam Vimes Boots Theory
The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. … A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. … But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes ‘Boots’ theory of socio-economic unfairness.
Something tells me we are past boots at this point
All fines should be at least as much as was profited from the crime.
Fines should scale with wealth. If zuckerberg gets a speeding ticket, he should have to pay millions. Bonus: this might encourage cops to go after rich people instead of poor.
“go after rich people” - I don’t think you grasp why the cops exist.
All fines should be at least as much as was profited from the crime.
No no.
All revenue from the crime should be forfeit, and redistributed to the victims. This is not the penalty for the crime, it’s just restitution.
Then a fine of some amount should be paid, as the actual penalty for the crime.
at least in my country many fines are given as “day fines” that is calculated as a days wage minus what is absolutely essential for survival so if you are poor the fines can be very small and for the rich 100k speeding ticket can and has happened.
Is it Switzerland?
Sure, but this isn’t really relevant to the OP because it’s not about a fine coming from law enforcement, it’s a lawsuit being settled.
At some point it is just bad business to not break the law, the payoffs outweigh the penalties. (For someone that rich)
To clarify, Meta had to pay $5.8 billion in a separate lawsuit. This was a lawsuit by Meta shareholders against Mark Zuckerberg and other board members looking for reimbursement of lost shareholder value
For 8 billion, 190 million is only 2.4%. It’s like paying $5 on a $200 ticket, that’s 2.5%. Must be awesome to be rich.
The larger problem is this encourages the government to let it happen, the citizens get hurt, and then they get a pay day…
Corps are essentially paying our government a penny so they can steal a dollar from taxpayers. It’s essentially a tax for theft.
laws
The OP screenshot has literally nothing to do with the law. It’s a lawsuit by Facebook shareholders, that was settled.
And you know, Zuckerberg can’t decide on his own to settle this lawsuit. It was settled, meaning both he, and those suing him, agreed to be paid this amount to stop pursuing the suit.
If you think that amount’s too small, you should take it up equally with him and the shareholders doing the suing.
law suit is part of the legal system which is based on laws.
This lawsuit’s outcome, settlement, was not determined by the legal system, which means describing it as “how much laws apply to you” is objectively false, despite your semantic pedantry.
The outcome was negotiated based on how it would have fared in the legal system.
i mean, facebook would go away if everyone just deleted their account, but it turns out most people aren’t willing to give up their addiction to fake likes from fake friends for fake validation–not even at the cost of their privacy and being exploited
How else could I contact people on my phone besides the FB app? Someone needs to solve that problem.
lol i love the old tried and true ‘it’s the only thing that exists to communicate with people’ excuse
though you don’t see that so much anymore these days
It’s not the only thing that exists, but it is still one of the most reliable social media to find someone on, especially for millenial aged people and older.
The group and event functionality is still leagues better than anything else I’ve seen, so neighborhood groups, school groups, and some classroom groups still rely upon it. For neighborhoods especially, there’s no way in hell you’re going to convince the overehelming majority of the neighborhood into Discord, Slack, Telegram, or especially any sort of self hosted or federated options while also giving up functionality and convenience.
Let me be clear, Zuckerberg is the strongest argument for the lizard people conspiracy I’ve ever seen. I am certain thatbFacebook and the horrendous effects it has had on society will be studied for history books for a very long time. It needs to die.
That said, the issue is only so simple as “why do they keep using it, are they stupid?” if you haven’t been paying attention for the last 20 years. They’ve worked very hard to be just barely useful enough, bring enough separate functionality under one roof, and to be psychologically addicting enough to keep people on it.
i mean if you say you can’t live without facebook…go ahead and use facebook lol
and i’m not saying “why do they keep using it,” i KNOW why people use it. it’s just that none of those reasons come close to justifying constantly feeding the technofascist greed machine with a steady steam of personal information–not just your own, but your kids’ too apparently–in order for them to a) sell to corporations; b) sell to political propaganda outfits; c) hand over to the christofascist police state government on command, d) get hacked by who tf knows who; and now e) train their AI (while compensating you $0.00 for your contribution)
congratulations, you’ve been gaslighted into genuinely believing you will just absolutely die without facebook. do you hear yourself? “i use facebook because neighborhood group”? bro. anyone who’s requiring you to join facebook…well, that relationship is a choice also.
but again, you do you
edit: this is what makes me laugh every time i see a post pointing out how shitty facebook is–it’s guaranteed that there will be a thread about “but iiiiii neeeeeeeeeeed itttt!!” LOL
That’s a lot of words to willfully miss my point and respond to shit I definitively didn’t say.
I don’t use it and I don’t need it, but pretending that people only use it because they’re stupid is stupid. Doubling down with blatant lack of reading comprehension is even dumber.
lol
respond to shit I definitively didn’t say.
you literally started it with
“why do they keep using it, are they stupid?”
which i definitively didn’t say
and then you did it again just now
i thought that was just your love language and wanted to play along
you can criticize me and call me stupid all you want, but at the end of the day my main point is undisputed: facebook is 100% optional in life, but people choose it for reasons that don’t justify the costs. it matters not one whit how much a sack of shit zuckerburg is
milleaneals still use it? i swear its gen x users.
All company policies are like that too. Conflit of interest is only bad if you are low income earner of said company.
Would love it if a list of those targeted, or whose accounts were mostly affected by it was released. Hopefully that would seriously fuck him and meta up. But I doubt it.
In fact, they could use some or all of the $8bn to help get those accounts names releases and inform the holders.
The way things are going, the $8bn isn’t going be used for extra protection on our privacy online, or mental health affected by it.
The take away is that it isn’t $8bn. It’s only $190M, and even if it had been $8bn it would have only been a slap on the wrist. At $190M it’s the equivalent of a fancy meal out for two for Zuck. Not even a slap on the wrist.
Oh wow. I read that way wrong. I read it as though he was paying $190m to avoid a lengthier and more costly court case with a possibly larger fine. Fuck… How did he get away with only paying that? That’s insane.
Anyway, it’s only shareholders that were suing him. For some reason that story hasn’t been very big over here, and with Christmas etc. Has got buried. Are any governments taking any action?
Fines as "punishment " for a crime are extra silly to an already silly and oppressive system.
*Zuckerberg
zuckerborg, he was never human. just an android trying to act human.
Fuckerzwerg
