• Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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    24 hours ago

    I’m sorry, but that is such a shitty take. So because we’re not the biggest polluters, we shouldn’t make any effort to curb our emissions? Even if climate scientists are warning us that right now we need to drastically cut oil production, we shouldn’t take any initiatives if no one else does?

    What the fuck man?

    Canada is in the top 10 largest emitters of greenhouse gasses in the world. In 2023 we produced approx 800 million tons of of carbon emissions. Just behind Saudi Arabia. (Source)

    Also take a look at this chart from the government of Canada about greenhouse gas emissions from large facilities and look how many are from Alberta. Especially red ones. The biggest emittors are located mostly in Alberta and southern Ontario. We can take a guess at what industries those are related to.

    Per capita, we emit way too much pollution per person.

    Also we had an engagement to reach certain goals according to the Paris Climate Change Agreement and instead of following through, we basically told everyone we’d stop trying. Along with many other countries. Those goals were important to avoid a drastic increase of global temperatures. And look at where we are now. There’s essentially no turning back. The climate is going to be fucked for good and we need to brace to deal with the consequences.

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      11 hours ago

      If a fishing boat is sinking because there are two big guys sitting on the stern and scooping 5 gallon buckets of water into it as fast as they can, its absolutely pointless to yell at the guy at the bow dribbling it in with a teaspoon, “Do your part and use a thimble instead!”

      The only way to make any measurable difference in emissions is to slow down or stop those two guys with the buckets.

      The world isn’t ‘sinking’ because Canada isn’t doing enough. Its sinking because we support and buy every product that China and the US produce and our multinational companies and gov leaders have no intention of stopping that and Canadians have very little desire to pay more for goods that cost more but pollute less. If you shop at Amazon, Walmart, Temu, Alibaba, Aliexpress you’re the reason we’re sinking.

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        10 hours ago

        In your analogy, we’re also using a bucket. Not a spoon. And on top of that, we’re helping the other guys as well is what you’re saying.

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          7 hours ago

          Don’t spend too much effort there. They explained in this very thread that they don’t believe anthropogenic climate change is what the actual scientists working on this are telling us it is, with another shitty comparison (because a volcano feels like it’s doing much more than humans).

          You cannot reason people out of something they were not reasoned into.

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          9 hours ago

          1.5% for Canada’s emissions.

          38% just from two countries - China and the US. Throw in India and its 44% of global emissions. From 3 countries out of 195.

          98.5% of global emissions are NOT from Canada. We are barely a teaspoon.

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            7 hours ago

            Right, so let’s must not make any effort and throw our trash in the rivers and the lakes and jack up oil production and greenhouse gas emissions because why the fuck not. Right?

            What a shit mentality.

            And you do understand the reason why these countries pollute so much is because all our industries moved their production there, thanks to globalization efforts, for the very reason that they lack costly environmental protection like we have here in our western countries, right? We’re in large part responsible for that pollution.

            I’d prefer we do our part instead and be a leading example that we can be proud of instead of nihilistic assholes.

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              4 hours ago

              Your first comment is outlandish and not anything close to the opinion I presented.

              And yes, you’re saying exactly the same thing I did when you agree that we’re responsible for moving our production elsewhere. Thats my point. We still buy everything from China and THAT’S the primary polluter not the oil and gas industry.