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  • It sounds like we are agreeing.

    What I said above:

    I say might be because it states “employed as a member of the clergy”. I’m betting they would claim “everyone who knew” was a volunteer (i.e. not “employed”).

    What your post above states (I added some bold and italic for emphasis in your quote):

    This is the churches defense:

    Kimberly Lowe, a lawyer and crisis manager for the church, said its preachers are unpaid and therefore might not be legally required to report sexual abuse of children. Asked if she believes the preachers are mandated reporters under Minnesota law, Lowe would only say that the language of the statute is unclear.

    While I agree the Propublica article states they were required reporters and that organization does pretty deep research, I was pointing out the “lawyer way of splitting hairs” in my comments. Lawyers just love to define and redefine the meanings of words; argue about context; question “what was the ‘real intent of the legislation’”; sow doubt; faine ignorance; beg forgiveness; etc ad nauseum. That’s why lawyers are hired to defend in court. Nothing against Propublica but you wouldn’t hire them to defend in court - they are after truth, in court you want a defense which is not necessarily the truth.

    Please note: none of this is meant to be “against you/your comments”. Just a slightly different angle on the subject.

    Best wishes to all and I hope we can get closer to making this kind of thing just an unhappy part of history.








  • According to this site MN mandated reporting they might be:

    People who must report

    Anyone who is a professional or a professional’s delegate engaged in the practice of the healing arts, social services, hospital administration, psychological or psychiatric treatment, child care, education, law enforcement, or employed as a member of the clergy.

    I say might be because it states “employed as a member of the clergy”. I’m betting they would claim “everyone who knew” was a volunteer (i.e. not “employed”).

    I’m a member of a Christian organized religion. I don’t think Christianity itself is to blame; PERVERSION OF CHRISTIANITY IS, but not Christinaty itself.

    Any true Christian would report this (doesn’t matter if they are legally required to or not). I’m not willing to stand in front of St Peter & God on judgement day and try to defend that kind of inaction.

    They should have many years in prison to work to atone for that.