Last year the U.S. experienced something that hasn’t definitively occurred since the Great Depression: More people moved out than moved in. The Trump administration has hailed the exodus—negative net migration—as the fulfillment of its promise to ramp up deportations and restrict new visas. Beneath the stormy optics of that immigration crackdown, however, lies a less-noticed reversal: America’s own citizens are leaving in record numbers, replanting themselves and their families in lands they find more affordable and safe.

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    10 days ago

    My husband and I are moving to Mérida, Yucatán, México in April. We don’t feel safe in Los Angeles anymore. And despite all the stuff going on in Mexico, Mérida is one of the safest cities in all the Americas.

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      I’m in the PV area. Trust me “all the stuff going on in Mexico” was a brief temper tantrum that lasted a few hours and some cars were burned after the head guy was taken out. Despite what English media wants to tell you, Mexico is safer today than it was before the events of Sunday.

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        9 days ago

        Thanks for sharing, and that’s good to hear. My husband was saying stuff was being blown out of proportion on US news outlets, too.

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      10 days ago

      Beautiful place to nice to tbh, what would be your monthly total expenses be moving to Mexico vs America?

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        I think comparing those relatively their respective median wages makes the more sense

        beyond that, mksg monthly expenses I see don’t ammortize the costs of buying stuff like phones and other consuemer eletronics and/or appliances which are unfortanely a necessity that one day will to be replaced

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          You don’t need to buy new phones or computers as long as they’re GSM phones. You might need new power supplies, or more probably just a plug adapter. You will need to replace any appliances that run on AC if the frequency is different (50 vs 60 cycles/sec). But major appliances are generally already in an apartment or house (depending on the custom in the country you’re moving to), which leaves things like toasters and microwaves which aren’t exorbitantly expensive.

          Incidentally, mobile phone service fees are much lower than in the UK. In England, I pay the equivalent of USD $11/mo for unlimited texts and voice calls and 5 GB of mobile data. Coverage and call quality are better too. ISP charges are also lower and connection speeds are good, as long as you avoid the big providers, which are evil and have poor quality of service.

          When doing international moves, which I’ve done several times in my life, a good starting principle is YAGNI: Ya Ain’t Gonna Need It. Bring irreplaceable personal items, clothes, maybe kitchenware. Big furniture, cars, etc: forget about those. Our first move filled up a container. Subsequent moves were increasingly small palletized LCL (less-than-container-load) in size.

          The big hurdles aren’t moving stuff around. They’re getting residency, setting up bank accounts and finding decent work. I initially took a slightly less senior position, but quickly climbed the ladder to where I was before. This, despite being quite old for my line of work. In previous international moves, I worked for multinationals which handled immigration matters and moving, though it was up to me to get residency once I was there long enough.