• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    6 days ago

    They’re a “ghurl” when it’s an adult waitress serving folks at a restaurant in Tuscan, but the moment its the president of the united states sticking his finger into a 13 year old’s genitals, she’s a “young women”. Fucking pedophiles from top to bottom.

  • jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 days ago

    Weird considering how often adult women are referred to as girls.

    “Underage girls” would be technically redundant but in practice correct

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      7 days ago

      Going out for drinks with the boys is almost always with adult men. A girls night out is often with adult women. We use boys and girls regularly to refer to adults depending on the context.

  • rumba@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    7 days ago

    Some are trying to dodge legal action against them, others are owned.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        There are a few out there still on the right side of history. Never enough thought.

        • Optional@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 days ago

          I don’t see how it’s possible to be on the right side and still not publish, often and explicitly, that the person who is president and leader of republicans is a demented rapist conman who ran a child sex trafficking ring, staged a violent coup attempt, and routinely steals taxpayer money for himself while promoting the murder of American citizens and regularly commits war crimes proudly.

          NOT saying that - every day in every way possible seems like capitulation if not collaboration.

          Edit: just to state the obvious I’m not a publisher and if I were I’d make no money probably.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        Everyone who calls out the current administration as pedophiles will get sued by the administration, and they have a lot of federal judges under their belt. Rather than get drawn out in to a lengthy legal battle. If they soften the wording, they lower the chances of being the initial targets.

  • HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    7 days ago

    Media been minimizing crimes for years through the concept of “sensitive topics”. Many users are so used to them they even self-censor. There is no murder or rape in media nowadays, people are simply “unalived” or “having involuntary sex”.

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    7 days ago

    It is a really weird thing to say, and you can still find a lot of articles that use the term “underage women”. But, it’s not like articles that use that term are necessarily trying to apologize for Epstein or minimize what happened.

    I think the problem is that they want to use the term “underage” because they want to clarify that what happened wasn’t legal. The proper term for an “underage woman” is a “girl”. But, unfortunately, “girl” is also used with adult women. So, saying “Trump had sex with some of the girls” doesn’t really clarify what happened. And, the term “underage girls” is also bad. That’s the kind of language you might find from someone like Megyn Kelly trying to draw a distinction between sex with an 8 year old vs. sex with a 15 year old.

    • Optional@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 days ago

      But, it’s not like articles that use that term are necessarily trying to apologize for Epstein or minimize what happened.

      That’s a subjective interpretation, and a valid one, I just disagree with it.

      Whether or not they’re “trying” to is even sort of irrelevant - it does minimize it. My opinion is that they know very well that that language minimizes it.

      • merc@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        I’m sure I can find you a bunch of articles where there’s no sign they’re trying to minimize what happened but they happen to use that term. I just think English is tricky. What term do you think they should be using?

          • merc@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 days ago

            That doesn’t work when the details are fuzzy, for example, this paragraph:

            House Democrats Wednesday released a small batch of emails that appear to suggest President Donald Trump knew more about Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking of underage women than he has acknowledged.

            https://theweek.com/politics/house-democrats-release-epstein-emails-trump

            You couldn’t say “Trump knew more about Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking of girls 11-14 than he has acknowledged”. That suggests that the emails that were released referenced those specific ages, which they don’t.

            • Optional@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              6 days ago

              You couldn’t say “Trump knew more about Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking of girls 11-14 than he has acknowledged”.

              You could say emails suggest Trump knew more about Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking of girls 11-14 than he has acknowledged". You sure could. You sure should! It’s the truth! It’s recorded in many places, witnessed by many people!

              • merc@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                6 days ago

                You clearly have no idea how fact checking works in journalism. They couldn’t make that claim.

                • Optional@lemmy.worldOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  6 days ago

                  You clearly have no idea how fact checking works in journalism.

                  Yeah right. IF that was true (and let me be clear - you have no idea what the fuck I know about) then a “free press” has been neutralized by the destruction of language. That’s a pretty arguable point. But.

                  Complicity is not handing over lists of names for people to be sent to camps. (it is, but) Complicity is super-boring shit where you approve the most mealy-mouthed nothingburgers all day long. Corporate news sewers are failing us every day, in almost every article.

                  And this “OMG You Can’t Say That Because It’s Not KNOWN” is why everybody thinks that’s the case.

                  Have you listened to first hand testimony from the Trumpstein victims? Have you? Okay you haven’t but that’s fine because they don’t make it into the NYT and CBS news. If you ever do, though, what you’ll find is that evidence that can be used to convict in a court of law will never be printed in the news. You think that has to do with fact checking in journalism? Don’t be a fool.

    • Law Abiding VPN User@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      7 days ago

      Is that why the media outlets that scream “orange man bad” all day long are also doing that damage control bullshit?

      it doesn’t matter who’s in charge, the media is evil and you don’t hate them enough

  • saltesc@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    63
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 days ago

    When I lived in Australia, we had floods. The news kept using the term “inundated” so much we turned it into a drinking game.

    “This place is inundated”, “That place has inundation”, “Were expecting here to be inundated”. And you’re thinking, “With what? Zombies? Donations? Locusts? Oooooh, rain water. Yeah, that’s called flooding, not inundating.”

    It was so weird, but all the news outlets did it.

  • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 days ago

    Probably trying to minimize the possibility that the words “child rape” or “pedophile” will occur within screenshotting distance of an ad for kid swimsuits or something. Journalistic integrity isn’t brand friendly.

  • ch00f@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    7 days ago

    I (American) remember visiting the UK for the first time when I was like 8. I remember thinking it odd that they referred to “car accidents” as “car crashes.”

    They’re not all accidents.

      • orbitz@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        6 days ago

        Reminder to watch that again, though it seems to be on at least a yearly viewing. I could do more but don’t want my gf to never suggest it, it’s always a treat when she wants to watch it too. Seriously one of the best movies of all time (though at my age that list grows but probably only 20-30 now I don’t keep track).

  • greenbit@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    7 days ago

    Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent is a confession and a revealing of the method

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      7 days ago

      Yes. I don’t really look up to Chomsky anymore, but 70% of what he said are correct, the other 30% are genocide denialism and his shocking defense of Epstein even after the latter has been captured.