Yeah, a lot of people are “scared off” by all that talk about instances. If people knew that it didn’t matter in terms of functionality and everyday use it would be a lot easier, perhaps.
Maybe it’s a matter of us trying to distinguish between “infrastructure” and the use of that same said "infrastructure "?
Although, saying what instance one signs to doesn’t matter would be lying. But saying it won’t make much difference in terms of where one can go is true. Well, unless it is a problematic instance and the others defederate from it. See? This is why it ends up being complicated to explain when people don’t know how it is supposed to function.
I think the important thing would be to educate people on federation and the nature of open protocols. And why it is a better shift from the current paradigm. A lot less corrupted with less perverse incentives. A return to the original promise of the internet, to be more fair.
I’ve been here for a while, and now I’m on piefed.social after the shutdown of lemm.ee. I can say the entirety of this space we’re on is growing. Slowly, but it is.
I agree it does matter to a degree, like if you wound up on Hexbear you would be blocked from accessing some things. That said… if people were recommending users just joined some of the larger instances like world/ml and then spread out they would figure it out for themselves. Personally I started on .ml, made an account on .ca/.world, then found dbzer0. I also have a Hexbear account I haven’t logged into in months, because I thought it would be interesting to learn what that whole culture was about.
At the end of the day I stay on dbzer0 and world… but that’s years of use that narrowed me down to that.
Wow. You’ve been busy exploring these corners. That’s great.
I think for the most part the .ml problem these days is a bit blown out of proportion. I’ve just been here for a couple of years so the worst that I heard of predates my time. Because a lot of the people registered there are not Tankies and openly condemn those views. But… I still don’t follow more than one or two communities from there because the mods were indeed a lot of the times part of that famously problematic side of it.
But hey, if it isn’t too much to ask, could you explain to me what the hell happened with Hexbear? I read some complaints but from my interactions with it, I never noticed anything that I could point out?
Like .world has a lot of those 1 day old accounts, the quick registrations for trolling and harassment that they take too long to squash. And lately it has been nonstop.
But Hexbear, I’m completely clueless of what happened…
Yeah, a lot of people are “scared off” by all that talk about instances. If people knew that it didn’t matter in terms of functionality and everyday use it would be a lot easier, perhaps.
Maybe it’s a matter of us trying to distinguish between “infrastructure” and the use of that same said "infrastructure "?
Although, saying what instance one signs to doesn’t matter would be lying. But saying it won’t make much difference in terms of where one can go is true. Well, unless it is a problematic instance and the others defederate from it. See? This is why it ends up being complicated to explain when people don’t know how it is supposed to function.
I think the important thing would be to educate people on federation and the nature of open protocols. And why it is a better shift from the current paradigm. A lot less corrupted with less perverse incentives. A return to the original promise of the internet, to be more fair.
I’ve been here for a while, and now I’m on piefed.social after the shutdown of lemm.ee. I can say the entirety of this space we’re on is growing. Slowly, but it is.
I agree it does matter to a degree, like if you wound up on Hexbear you would be blocked from accessing some things. That said… if people were recommending users just joined some of the larger instances like world/ml and then spread out they would figure it out for themselves. Personally I started on .ml, made an account on .ca/.world, then found dbzer0. I also have a Hexbear account I haven’t logged into in months, because I thought it would be interesting to learn what that whole culture was about.
At the end of the day I stay on dbzer0 and world… but that’s years of use that narrowed me down to that.
Wow. You’ve been busy exploring these corners. That’s great.
I think for the most part the .ml problem these days is a bit blown out of proportion. I’ve just been here for a couple of years so the worst that I heard of predates my time. Because a lot of the people registered there are not Tankies and openly condemn those views. But… I still don’t follow more than one or two communities from there because the mods were indeed a lot of the times part of that famously problematic side of it.
But hey, if it isn’t too much to ask, could you explain to me what the hell happened with Hexbear? I read some complaints but from my interactions with it, I never noticed anything that I could point out?
Like .world has a lot of those 1 day old accounts, the quick registrations for trolling and harassment that they take too long to squash. And lately it has been nonstop.
But Hexbear, I’m completely clueless of what happened…