• Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
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    The loud ones are the ones with their tongues on the boot. The rest of us have to figure out who each other are without the bootlickers finding and ratting us out. Some of us have been fighting for decades. You are not helping.

    P.S. fascists are laying groundwork in your country too. What are you doing about that besides criticizing the US?

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      The Nazis executed my Grandpa for refusing to continue fighting in a war they forced him to participate in, in 1944.

      At the time, you could be beheaded simply for saying you didn’t believe the war could be won anymore. They called it “Wehrkraftzersetzung”.

      You can still resist without immediately forfeiting your life. You might regret not having done it when it is too late.

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      We’re doing a “don’t elect a multiple felon rapist pedophile” for president.

      Also, not giving any single person the power of a king.

      If the USA had the right checks and balances, like most EU countries, the POTUS would not have been able to pardon his fellow criminals, would not have been able to delay Epstein files, and would not have been able to invade other countries.

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        If you think the US is just some anomaly and not the canary in the coalmine of a global rise of fascism, you’re in for a rude awakening. The US absolutely fucked it up, no question about it, and it’s up to Americans to fix that mess, but pretending it’s somehow contained and isolated is very shortsighted. “Fuck you, I got mine” is the exact type of attitude that leads to fascism. Nationalism is a problem even when your country isn’t objectively fucked up.

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      To be fair, comparing people trying to do fascism in other countries to Americans hits more viscerally than comparing them to nazis at this point.

      So, honestly, being critical of the US and calling out fascism and calling it “Like America” is extremely persuasive. Having Trump like you, as a political figure in the west, is a massive liability. Being seen as similar in any way is a massive liability.

      • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
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        Whatever fucking works. Don’t let the bastards win. I just don’t want anyone feeling secure in this being a US isolated problem, because it sure fucking isn’t.

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          You’re right, it isn’t. I think there are a lot of cerebral dissections of fascism as a populist movement in the USA, but it’s important to understand that cerebral dissections are an ineffective counter to any populist movement.

          Populist movements need a simple hook. An effective counter needs a similarity simple hook. The USA has provided one.

          I acknowledge it must suck to BE the simple hook : “This sounds like you wanna turn this country into the USA (everyone barfs)”

          Once upon a time, not even that long ago, that same simple hook could motivate positive change. For right or wrong, the cultural dominance of the USA made it an easily accessible shared point of reference.

          But, it is what it is. Work within the bounds of the reality that exists.