As much as I’d like to see this creature meet a firing squad, all prisoners deserve to be treated as people. I do have an issue with her “knowing the right people” and being treated differently.
How do you rehab a children sex slaver? I simply don’t see that ever happening even if they miracously achieve some enlightenment.
Just like death penalty is a cost on our system rehabilitation can be one so as well when the odds are so against us here.
As in, are we investing millions of our collective resources for a 1% chance of rehabilitating this person or we put them in a dark cave somewhere and collectively forget they exist? Sometimes the latter seems like a better choice.
Yeah that’s shit is abhorrent but you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge. Guy below me said it better. In a perfect world, where you could know the truth 100% of the time, firing squad all day. We don’t live in that world though.
you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge
I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.
True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.
I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.
Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.
The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?
As much as I’d like to see this creature meet a firing squad, all prisoners deserve to be treated as people. I do have an issue with her “knowing the right people” and being treated differently.
eh, child sex slavery is where I’d draw the line but that’s just me
We can all likely empathize but when you decide there is a line then where that line is drawn becomes contentious.
Rehabilitate or remove from society but it shouldn’t be about punitive harm imo.
Agreed
How do you rehab a children sex slaver? I simply don’t see that ever happening even if they miracously achieve some enlightenment.
Just like death penalty is a cost on our system rehabilitation can be one so as well when the odds are so against us here.
As in, are we investing millions of our collective resources for a 1% chance of rehabilitating this person or we put them in a dark cave somewhere and collectively forget they exist? Sometimes the latter seems like a better choice.
This is why we need a coliseum.
Through active intensive therapy, usually for life.
Edit: I missed. Comment moved.
Yeah that’s shit is abhorrent but you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge. Guy below me said it better. In a perfect world, where you could know the truth 100% of the time, firing squad all day. We don’t live in that world though.
I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.
True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.
I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.
Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.
The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?