• Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    13 days ago

    I’m not reading this long of a comment when you’re just trying to justify away racism.

    Nostalgia is a tool of modern white-supremacism, and people should be more aware of that fact.

    *taps the sign*

    Edit: I also NEVER SAID that white supremacy was the reason, as your first comment seemed to posit, so this just all feels like mansplaining. Have a nice day. 🫡

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      13 days ago

      “I didn’t read all that but it’s definitely racist and mansplaining” is a hell of a take. Imagine a world where book reviews were all based on number of pages and a subjective opinion of the author.

      I thought the comment was good reading. I’m pretty informed and I learned a few things.

      Particularly enjoyed this part:

      …It in fact strengthens the fascist narrative because it reinforces the lie that in order for a white person to have a good quality of life, white supremacy has to also be in place. It cedes the past to the far right.

      As a feminist, please, for the love of fuck, stop using the term “mansplaining” whenever someone disagrees politely in a debate.

      • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        13 days ago

        Oh I’m sorry, I guess I’m not a feminist? I’ll defer to your authority :)

        Maybe just no longer in the mood to be charitable because of all the people in this thread jumping down mine and other’s throats for saying this was only true for white families. Maybe not in the mood for someone splaining to me that nostalgia is good actually and not a well-studied tool of the far right. It’s almost like the fascist in the White House uses "Make America Great Again" as his campaign slogan.

        Maybe I’m just sick of this awful platform and it’s “progressive” but actually very neoliberal conservative userbase.

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          13 days ago

          How would you know what the platform is like if you don’t read the comments?

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          13 days ago

          Maybe I’m just sick of this awful platform

          Nobody’s forcing you to be here if it’s so awful. You can always try going outside instead or finding an echo chamber somewhere where you can safely ignore the reality of not everyone always agreeing with you.

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      13 days ago

      I’m not reading this long of a comment when you’re just trying to justify away racism.

      Oh OK, the comment is long so just accuse me of trying to justify away racism instead. And of mansplaining. Super reasonable.

      By the way, the TLDR version of my too-long comment is in the EDIT above. Tweet sized: «The engine was political economy, the distribution was racialized and gendered. Let’s do the former without the latter.»

      • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        13 days ago

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        Part of mansplaining is inventing a position to argue against so you can 'splain to someone like you know better than them. All I said was that it was only true for white families. Which you’ve admitted was the case. So what else are you doing here trying to explain away what was still a fact due to racism?? Sure, it wasn’t necessarily the driving force, but it was a fact, and it’s weird to be nostalgic for a time that actually sucked for a broad segment of the population. White families had it better than black families, and capitalists wouldn’t have given up all that they did if those benefits had to actually be for everyone.

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          13 days ago

          Not sure how to respond without a long comment, but here goes. Basic idea: we agree on the facts. We disagree on their interpretation and on the usefulness of nostalgia.