Okay, but let’s at least try to remember that there is mandatory conscription and service in Israel and that there is probably a significant proportion of people who have no other choice but to serve in the IDF. I am in no way attempting to excuse genocidal and homicidal actions that anyone has taken, but let’s at least attempt to understand the complexity of the issue instead of trying to reduce things to an unnaturally binary state.
Life is infinitely complex. Let’s use the wonderful tools of understanding that complex evolutionary pathways have afforded us to try to scratch the surface of that infinity. Empathy is strength; don’t let right-wing propaganda teach you that it is a weakness.
there is probably a significant proportion of people who have no other choice but to serve in the IDF
fuck that genocide-enabling noise. if your choices are to go to prison or take part in mass murder of innocents, then you don’t get a pass for opting to kill people to save yourself some discomfort.
I don’t disagree with you, but let’s try to at least understand the complexity of those decisions instead of viewing the world in black/white. That sort of thinking breeds fascism and authoritarianism.
Exactly the excuse “oh I had to make that choice or else I would have suffered” is so lacking in solidarity that it’s infuriating.
This is how hierarchy maintains its power, by saying “hurt them or we will hurt you; do what we say or else”; making people believe it is acceptable to sacrifice the lives of others to remain safe under the current system. Their power is entirely predicated on people having that fear keeping them in line and obeying their orders.
We’ve seen now what happens in Israeli gaols - I can only imagine that they’d treat perceived “traitors” the same as Palestinians; perhaps worse.
They don’t deserve our sympathy, but they definitely deserve empathy. Choosing to turn off your empathy for groups of people is sociopathy and that’s a road I’m unwilling to go down.
And I’d like to live in a magical floating castle. At least a dead IDF today will save a life tomorrow.
Okay, but let’s at least try to remember that there is mandatory conscription and service in Israel and that there is probably a significant proportion of people who have no other choice but to serve in the IDF. I am in no way attempting to excuse genocidal and homicidal actions that anyone has taken, but let’s at least attempt to understand the complexity of the issue instead of trying to reduce things to an unnaturally binary state.
Life is infinitely complex. Let’s use the wonderful tools of understanding that complex evolutionary pathways have afforded us to try to scratch the surface of that infinity. Empathy is strength; don’t let right-wing propaganda teach you that it is a weakness.
fuck that genocide-enabling noise. if your choices are to go to prison or take part in mass murder of innocents, then you don’t get a pass for opting to kill people to save yourself some discomfort.
I don’t disagree with you, but let’s try to at least understand the complexity of those decisions instead of viewing the world in black/white. That sort of thinking breeds fascism and authoritarianism.
TIL that saying people should go to jail instead of being Nazis makes me a Nazi.
Then don’t double down on genocide apologia. It’s really that fucking simple.
They literally have other choices than joining the IDF. That choice is gaol, instead they choose to commit genocide.
Fuck them all, zero sympathy for Nazis.
Exactly the excuse “oh I had to make that choice or else I would have suffered” is so lacking in solidarity that it’s infuriating.
This is how hierarchy maintains its power, by saying “hurt them or we will hurt you; do what we say or else”; making people believe it is acceptable to sacrifice the lives of others to remain safe under the current system. Their power is entirely predicated on people having that fear keeping them in line and obeying their orders.
We’ve seen now what happens in Israeli gaols - I can only imagine that they’d treat perceived “traitors” the same as Palestinians; perhaps worse.
They don’t deserve our sympathy, but they definitely deserve empathy. Choosing to turn off your empathy for groups of people is sociopathy and that’s a road I’m unwilling to go down.