I saw that a post was made in !main@sh.itjust.works about defederation about a month ago, an admin commented to make a post here to discuss defederation, but the post was never made.
https://maga.place/ is very obviously a small community with no real substance to it, but I saw an antivax post to !science_memes@mander.xyz and was surprised it still exists.
Anyways I don’t really have a lot to say but uh, I recently hit a full year on this great instance 😊 (old account @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works)
I haven’t seen any evidence of their users consistently violating rules of other instances, I’ve only seen intolerant communities on their instance. That should not be grounds for defederation, we should only defederate if their instance refuses to deal with reported abuse from their users.
So I’ll vote no on this. While I very much disagree politically w/ that instance, I don’t think that’s enough to defederate.
The only interactions I’ve had with them was a user trolling.
If you have evidence, post it. If we have any mods who have experience working w/ their admins, we should have that evidence as well.
meh, I’m not going to convince you. Just vote no. Besides:
Bait?
If we make decisions based on a difference of opinion, we’ll just create a massive echo chamber. To avoid that, defederation needs to be based on actual rules, and I think those rules should center around moderation. Regardless of the other instance’s views, if their moderation keeps up with reports, we should stay federated. I don’t know if that’s the case, hence the ask for evidence.
When your “opinions” consist of racism and hate, they cease to be opinion.
As long as they keep their opinions in whatever community they choose and don’t force it down anyone’s throat, I’m fine with it existing. I’d rather have ugly opinions openly debated instead of festering in the background where others get sucked in and we get a pathway to extremism. It’s pretty easy to just block the odd community that pops up all you never see it again.
Debate them or ignore them, but completely blocking them just kneecaps this burgeoning platform. Nobody is going to join if the standard is “only leftists that meet this litmus test”.
Obviously you can vote however you choose, I personally prefer to lean on the side of allowing content vs blocking it outright, at least until they refuse to obey our rules when in our communities.
You’re making a valid point, on the other hand
What if the standard was not “only leftists” but “everyone but the far-right”? They are allowed on most (?) major platforms these days, and it hasn’t helped them become better places.
Nazis shouldn’t be given a seat at the table. That’s my take.