I hope what we take most from this is that 2026, 2028 is NOT “too early” or “too high stakes” for an ACTUAL progressive campaign. The DNC has used that argument 3x with Trump and lost said elections twice (only winning 2020 because Trump bombed w/ Covid-19). I’m certain we’ll hear it again in the next two national elections.
Having a competent populist leftist politician is not a detraction. Quite the opposite. NO to Gruesome Newsom
By any chance do you have a good link that explains all the terrible stuff Gavin has done? I know some of the stuff but my memory is not like it used to be and my wife was asking and I wanted to explain to her that even though he’s making some funny Trump jokes he’s a piece of crap himself
It would be next to impossible to find a video like the one you’re asking for without MAGA pollutants.
I can name off one thing, his partying with incredibly expensive wine and food at the height of the pandemic after the mask mandates. That was the big thing for me that convinced me he’s a differently colored snake.
Just to be very clear, the DNC leadership is antagonistic to our (I assumed) shared goals.
The Democrats are obviously what needs to be supported in a 2 party system, so regardless of the DNC antics, the sacrifice for not choosing them will be more severe, and they know that.
I’m saying this all to say, absolutely support a progressive candidate if you can in the primaries, but when it comes election time, fall in line.
Also, there is a big problem where Mamdani is supremely clever and fast on his feet, having practiced every comeback a million times in the shower, ready to let them rip on command.
At the federal there is no one with that level of natural charisma or wit.
I’m saying this all to say, absolutely support a progressive candidate if you can in the primaries, but when it comes election time, fall in line.
No.
A candidate campaigns for MY vote.
The Democratic establishment can prove they aren’t an obstacle to progress, me blindly voting for them is no longer a grace I automatically extend to a party hellbent on sabotaging progressives even if it means losing to literal fascists.
This stupid shit will lose you the ability to vote, and fuck over millions of people not deserving the blunt end of said stupidity.
It’s been seen time and time again that democrats losing shifts them right.
Thats what happens.
The DNC knows that all they have to do is play “At least we’re not trump” and they’re happy enough.
You acting like a petulant child, as if somehow you’re really getting back the rich out of touch people is pants on head stupid. It’s you that loses the most. Actually no, its the marginalized people who lose the most, yet you sit there, pout, and fuck yourself and your fellow country while having a childish tantrum.
The Democratic establishment can prove they aren’t an obstacle to progress
They won’t, and you already know this, so you can either be mature and pragmatic by realizing this and voting as best aligns with your interests while trying to change the party over time as this is a 2 party winner takes all/first past the post style system, or you can act like a child, and self harm;throwing a tantrum whilst walking a tight rope.
me blindly voting for them is no longer a grace I automatically extend to a party hellbent on sabotaging progressives even if it means losing to literal fascists.
I refuse to believe real people and not fascists agitators can have opinions this brain dead.
I refuse to believe real people and not fascists agitators can have opinions this brain dead.
This is exactly why people with your perspective are destroying this country and keep losing elections to fascists, y’all refuse to believe reality and instead feel the need to force a moral judgement on votors not giving your shit candidates votes automatically because “other side bad”.
It’s been seen time and time again that democrats losing shifts them right.
This is exactly why people with your perspective are destroying this country and keep losing elections to fascists
Its crazy you say shit like this when we both support progressiveness. “You are realistic and therefor bad”.
y’all refuse to believe reality and instead need to force a moral judgment on voters not giving your shit candidates votes automatically because “other side bad”.
They literally aren’t my preferred candidates. That was inherent to the statment that they were not preferred but you still should because not doing so is petulant tantrum throwing that hurts many, including yourself.
You badly want reality to just work the way you want it to work instead of the way it does, and would rather be delusional than face the facts.
You literally can’t logically justify your emotional and self harming behaviour and never stop to self reflect on why that is.
That is their choice, not mine.
100% your choice. Fortunately you are an (insane and child like) minority, but holy fuck do you not help.
You do know that when you start insulting your opponent you’ve both lost the argument and shown your ass, right?
Hopefully one day you’ll realize that you are the problem, that it is you carrying water for the right-wing party that together with the far-right-wing party have turned the good ole USA into a right-loving hellhole, slowly but surely over the last 50 years or so. Always unable to understand why a growing number of people are done with your political farce, just foaming at the mouth as your shill cries of blue-compliance and lesser-evil voting fail to do anything.
You do know that when you start insulting your opponent you’ve both lost the argument and shown your ass, right?
No, I don’t know that, because its something people without actual points in their favour bust out when they feel the other person has been too blunt.
In this case, the other person wishes to harm a significant amount of people. I owe them no apologies, and the only people showing their asses are the people treating significant, real life politics like a game and as if they were children flipping all the pieces off because they didn’t win.
Hopefully one day you’ll realize that you are the problem, that it is you carrying water for the right-wing party that together with the far-right-wing party have turned the good ole USA into a right-loving hellhole, slowly but surely over the last 50 years or so.
The thing about this child like understanding of this easy to understand system where only 2 parties will ever have a chance due to the math of it being a first past the post/winner takes all system, is that the very obvious only way to change said system without tremendous blood shed, is by slowly transitioning the party closest to your goals over time. Because this can’t be completed faster than a short on tiktok or youtube, you get enraged and think the whole system can never be fixed. Do you have a solution? Of course you don’t though. You’d instead have it get more broken, harming you and your causes more.
and lesser-evil voting fail to do anything.
This by itself is tremendously ignorant to the massive differences in policy between the 2 parties. All of this comment is filled with impotent irate ignorance.
Absolutely, but I will not keep falling in line for candidates that would rather lose than listen to me and publicly and emphatically support the very reasonable policies I want.
At a certain point my vote is earned, it has to be or else I will be ignored.
I think you are missing the meaning of “compromise”. You need to vote for the candidate that will best represent you… And part of the best representation equation is being able to win the election.
I hope what we take most from this is that 2026, 2028 is NOT “too early” or “too high stakes” for an ACTUAL progressive campaign. The DNC has used that argument 3x with Trump and lost said elections twice (only winning 2020 because Trump bombed w/ Covid-19). I’m certain we’ll hear it again in the next two national elections.
Having a competent populist leftist politician is not a detraction. Quite the opposite. NO to Gruesome Newsom
If AoC wins the primary I’ll vote for her.
If Newsom wins the primary I’ll vote for him.
I’ll be donating to AoC’s campaign though.
By any chance do you have a good link that explains all the terrible stuff Gavin has done? I know some of the stuff but my memory is not like it used to be and my wife was asking and I wanted to explain to her that even though he’s making some funny Trump jokes he’s a piece of crap himself
It would be next to impossible to find a video like the one you’re asking for without MAGA pollutants.
I can name off one thing, his partying with incredibly expensive wine and food at the height of the pandemic after the mask mandates. That was the big thing for me that convinced me he’s a differently colored snake.
No good link, but there definitely should be one at some point. That’s an idea to consider.
Here are some of Newsom’s worst decisions:
Just to be very clear, the DNC leadership is antagonistic to our (I assumed) shared goals.
The Democrats are obviously what needs to be supported in a 2 party system, so regardless of the DNC antics, the sacrifice for not choosing them will be more severe, and they know that.
I’m saying this all to say, absolutely support a progressive candidate if you can in the primaries, but when it comes election time, fall in line.
Also, there is a big problem where Mamdani is supremely clever and fast on his feet, having practiced every comeback a million times in the shower, ready to let them rip on command.
At the federal there is no one with that level of natural charisma or wit.
That’s something important to point out.
No.
A candidate campaigns for MY vote.
The Democratic establishment can prove they aren’t an obstacle to progress, me blindly voting for them is no longer a grace I automatically extend to a party hellbent on sabotaging progressives even if it means losing to literal fascists.
This stupid shit will lose you the ability to vote, and fuck over millions of people not deserving the blunt end of said stupidity.
It’s been seen time and time again that democrats losing shifts them right.
Thats what happens.
The DNC knows that all they have to do is play “At least we’re not trump” and they’re happy enough.
You acting like a petulant child, as if somehow you’re really getting back the rich out of touch people is pants on head stupid. It’s you that loses the most. Actually no, its the marginalized people who lose the most, yet you sit there, pout, and fuck yourself and your fellow country while having a childish tantrum.
They won’t, and you already know this, so you can either be mature and pragmatic by realizing this and voting as best aligns with your interests while trying to change the party over time as this is a 2 party winner takes all/first past the post style system, or you can act like a child, and self harm;throwing a tantrum whilst walking a tight rope.
I refuse to believe real people and not fascists agitators can have opinions this brain dead.
This is exactly why people with your perspective are destroying this country and keep losing elections to fascists, y’all refuse to believe reality and instead feel the need to force a moral judgement on votors not giving your shit candidates votes automatically because “other side bad”.
That is their choice, not mine.
Its crazy you say shit like this when we both support progressiveness. “You are realistic and therefor bad”.
They literally aren’t my preferred candidates. That was inherent to the statment that they were not preferred but you still should because not doing so is petulant tantrum throwing that hurts many, including yourself.
You badly want reality to just work the way you want it to work instead of the way it does, and would rather be delusional than face the facts.
You literally can’t logically justify your emotional and self harming behaviour and never stop to self reflect on why that is.
100% your choice. Fortunately you are an (insane and child like) minority, but holy fuck do you not help.
You do know that when you start insulting your opponent you’ve both lost the argument and shown your ass, right?
Hopefully one day you’ll realize that you are the problem, that it is you carrying water for the right-wing party that together with the far-right-wing party have turned the good ole USA into a right-loving hellhole, slowly but surely over the last 50 years or so. Always unable to understand why a growing number of people are done with your political farce, just foaming at the mouth as your shill cries of blue-compliance and lesser-evil voting fail to do anything.
No, I don’t know that, because its something people without actual points in their favour bust out when they feel the other person has been too blunt.
In this case, the other person wishes to harm a significant amount of people. I owe them no apologies, and the only people showing their asses are the people treating significant, real life politics like a game and as if they were children flipping all the pieces off because they didn’t win.
The thing about this child like understanding of this easy to understand system where only 2 parties will ever have a chance due to the math of it being a first past the post/winner takes all system, is that the very obvious only way to change said system without tremendous blood shed, is by slowly transitioning the party closest to your goals over time. Because this can’t be completed faster than a short on tiktok or youtube, you get enraged and think the whole system can never be fixed. Do you have a solution? Of course you don’t though. You’d instead have it get more broken, harming you and your causes more.
This by itself is tremendously ignorant to the massive differences in policy between the 2 parties. All of this comment is filled with impotent irate ignorance.
Sure, and compromise is inherent to democracy. So go vote for who you want in the primaries, and vote against who you don’t want in the general.
Absolutely, but I will not keep falling in line for candidates that would rather lose than listen to me and publicly and emphatically support the very reasonable policies I want.
At a certain point my vote is earned, it has to be or else I will be ignored.
I think you are missing the meaning of “compromise”. You need to vote for the candidate that will best represent you… And part of the best representation equation is being able to win the election.
Oh! I guess if being able to win an election is part of the compromise maybe all the non voters for Hillary and Kamala were right.