• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    I wish this news made me happier. It ought to but all it reminds me is that in 2032 people will probably vote in mecha-hitler Grok Musk for US president because Americans have the collective memory of a goldfish.

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    Spanberger is ex-CIA, and a party selected candidate (she went through no primary). Expect no substantial changes.

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      That’s why I’ve put her only on second place from the top. It’s a nice thing that she’s flipped a seat, but it’s not gonna start a reform of the party. The reform is gonna come from Mamdani’s win and Pelosi’s retirement.

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    I really dislike the fact that this pos has a meme format. His wife literally works for pedonald on destroying the education system.

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      So is it pronounced pedo-nald? Or Ped-onald?
      That last one sounds more like he has a foot fetish than a small child fetish that he actually does but rolls of the tongue easier than the first one.

      Maybe Peed-on-Ald? He does like getting pissed on.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    Tbf, Nancy didn’t announce her retirement. The voters finally did it for her.

    Schumer needs to be next and Jeffries can join him for early bird specials and get the hell out of politics - this is a serious time and you have nothing to meet this moment.

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      Yes, Schumer next please.

      I think Jeffries is a good rep but bad leader. He doesn’t need to retire, just let someone else take the leadership role.

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        Jeffries voting record on Israel is not good

        On 4/20/2024 he voted yes on H.R.8034 to give $26.38 Billion in Additional Weapons “Aid” to Israel

        9/23/2021 he voted yes on H.R. 5323 to give the Israeli government $1 billion more for their Iron Dome military system

        7/23/2019 he didn’t vote on H.Res. 246, which passed - H.Res. 246 - Opposing Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Movement targeting Israel

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      I am glad that this passed in California, but this whole thing makes me feel terrible for the outlook of the country. I’ve been interested in counter-gerrymandering and alternative voting methods like ranked choice voting for a while now. I had loved seeing some states like California and Colorado taking steps to better elections.

      But of course, having better and better elections in blue states just allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to seize control at a national level. I don’t know how you fix this problem, other than to do what California did and beat them at their own game. I don’t see a constitutional amendment being passed to help any time soon.

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        allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to cease control at a national level

        If only they’d cease 🥲

        Americans, I highly encourage you to do everything you can to seize the means of federal elections, and put it in the hands of an independent federal electoral commission, instead of the nonsense state administration you currently have.

        Maybe one day you’ll have a voting system as good as ours (one point we are very proud of).

        Love from Australia

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            Technically they could fine you up to 1 Penalty Unit ($330 at time of writing).

            But they just give you a $20 “administrative penalty” so they don’t have to litigate.

            https://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/non-voters.htm

            Turnout is very high every election, and we don’t need to waste political messaging airspace on “get out the vote”, so this part of our political system seems to be working well (capitalism and neoliberalism being a bane to our existence notwithstanding).

            Side note, “get out the vote” is a weird sentence.

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          Americans, I highly encourage you to do everything you can to seize the means of federal elections

          Seizing other things, like the means of production would also be pretty nifty.

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      Honestly, this is arguably the most significant thing for America for the night. Countering Texas’ Gerrymander is big, but it’s not as sexy of a story.

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        Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.

        The whole ‘let’s follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist’s votes’ idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples’ lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.

        Appeasement didn’t work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?

        But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.

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          The way I always put it, moving left may not win us elections (and those imagining a quiet leftist supermajority need to talk to more normies), but sure as shit it’s been proven that neither will moving right.

          Moving left will improve the country, while moving right will make it worse.

          Ceteris paribus, the choice should be obvious: moving left isn’t a panacea for our electoral problems, but it is still very much the preferable choice. Caution may be called for on specific issues, but in general, the American electorate is not very ideological in any coherent sense. ‘Left’ and ‘right’ are feelings for them, and they’ll side with whichever ‘sounds good’ at a given moment.

          Let’s purge the Dems of these ancient neoliberal ghouls and move fucking left. I’m so fucking tired. If we still lose, at least this time we’ll lose with a little basic fucking dignity. Which isn’t much, but still a hell of a lot better than selling out and losing anyway.

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        I find it very interesting that it was put up to a vote in California. In Texas, the legislators just took it upon themselves to cheat. “Going high” is going to bite the dems in the ass eventually, though.

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          Texas doesn’t allow for citizens to gather signatures to put something directly on the ballot. The politicians control everything.

          CA citizens used a citizen-led ballot initiative to take the redistricting keys away from the legislature. Stuff like this has to go before voters in CA.

          The people are more in control in CA.

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          It HAD to go before a vote in Cali. We didn’t have a choice politically since our independent election map commission is enshrined into the state constitution. In Texas they don’t have anything remotely enshrined into their constitution so for us here in Cali we had to put it to the people and even then it’s sorta weak since it has an exact end date in 2030. It’s only here for one cycle before it falls off and goes back. Which could be dangerous if the other states don’t stop gerrymandering.

          That or we’ll just leave next time.

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            It’s preferable that it has an end date since it’s intentionally cheating the system for the greater good. I’d rather have it keep going up for a vote every 5 years so we can choose to put it back as needed.

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          “Going high”, in this case referring to using democratic principles to govern? That’s not going high, that’s how the system is supposed to work.

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    Dick Cheney was among the worst in an administration that disrespected human rights, international law, honesty, trustworthiness and set the US reputation as well as the fight against global warming way back.

    Usually, that probably would have been my last thought of him.

    Except, we have this crazy timeline. This timeline, in which he was able to stand out just by pointing out that he is still in favour of free elections. At least that was still a given in his time, even though the decision about the loss of Al Gore was considered controversial by some back then.

    A low bar, a low bar indeed. But here we go, on this positive note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Nq9SpGzic

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    The only way shit could possibly get better than this would be if we got all three of the very specific front-page obituaries that shall not be specifically named all happening in very short order.

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      This isn’t reddit, you’re allowed to name them. I’m guessing you wanted Trump, Miller, and Hegseth?

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        Alright alright that’s a fair point, the mods here aren’t corpofascist stooges like on Reddit.

        1. Trump, pedophile and protector of pedophiles.
        2. Putin, butcher of multitudes of his own people.
        3. Netanyahu, inflicting a Holocaust on Palestine.
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      looks like it’s a “rumor”

      my guess is she’s realizing people don’t want a corrupt sack of bones representing them.

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        Like she gives a shit about the people

        She probably just realized that she actually wants a retirement and to not end up like Dianne Feinstein.

        We need to get the zombie voters out of congress desperately.

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          let me rephrase. She doesn’t want the humiliation of getting her ass primaried as people decide to fuck it all to hell; causing her to lose.

          This way she can go out on her own terms and pretend like she’s not part of the problem while living off the shitloads of money she scammed from us.

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          Nobody ever managed anything by deciding up front it was impossible - that ensures defeat! If you’re not dead yet, it makes no sense to give up unless you choose to stay defeated? In which case OK, if it’s preferable to trying again? It sucks but you are allowed to lose all hope.

          It might be a silly question but are you depressed? It’s hard not to feel pretty depressed about the state of the world, and I make no judgement on someone for feeling depressed. I would be more surprised to meet someone not depressed at this point! It happens to most of us.

          Sorry to hear that you’ve lost any hope of having an impact yourself though, that would for sure feel pretty demoralising.

          I hope you won’t give up forever - you are needed!

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            Fine, get excited. Just know at this rate, fascism is inevitable. Be happy for yesterday… but by tomorrow you’ll need to focus on the road ahead.

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              I’ve known fascism was inevitable since I started studying it as a teenager in about 1994. It’s also why I know it will be beaten, and why even then it will still need to be fought again after that. Fascism has probably been around forever in some form, long before it had this name.

              You’re not convincing me with your combination of “there’s no hope” and “focus on the road ahead” though because it doesn’t seem like you believe in a road ahead?

              I’m focused on the road today, not on what I think isn’t possible or is too late to bother about.

              Fact is, you aren’t dead yet! So are you going to live it or spend your days trying to convince others to give up too?

              Your position makes no sense unless you have already given up and accepted defeat prematurely… which is basically enabling fascism by default.

              So now you know why fascism always gets a foothold! Kindly do something differently, then?

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                You’re right. I’ve already started the emigration process. I’m outa here. Good luck voting again!

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                  I don’t live in the USA, but I have a lot of friends there so I watch with concern and try to support from afar. Good luck emigrating!

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            I think you are very confused and just hearing what you want to hear. Which is also what I think you’re doing with this image.

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                You are absolutely entitled to have your opinion, but as I said in the other comment, your goal is to be mean to me because you don’t like the way I think. Everything you say from here on out is specifically tailored to get that dopamine you desire

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                  I don’t like the way you think because you make no sense. And I’m only being mean to you because you’re actively trying to be destructive. Get it straight.

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      Defeatism is not helpful. Oppose what’s happening, don’t appease the executive. Allow there to be some way to betterment before all you can do is say ‘there’s no hope’

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          Defeatism : an attitude of accepting, expecting, or being resigned to defeat

          How is that helpful. The dictionary definition has nothing regarding pushing back

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            That’s the word YOU choose to use, but “defeated” would only be true if we sit back and deny unpleasant truths.

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          Part of the propaganda’s aim is to rob people of choices. Letting them think there is no hope is a key factor. The message overall is “this is the only way”, stamping out all other possibilities.

          I don’t have much hope, but seeing the propaganda machine going full force for the NYC election actually made me feel like the was a chance for change. If the results didn’t matter or were obvious, they wouldn’t have cared to meddle.

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            Ahh I see. Thanks. My guess is he will never see office. I don’t know what they will do at this point, immigration thing or maybe just kill him. ~60 days is a long time from now.