electric cars also aren’t always the best if the electricity is generated by coal or something
Actually untrue. Because internal combustion engines (ICEs) are so inherently inefficient, even an EV powered 100% by electricity from a coal-fired plant (accounting for electrical transmission loss) comes out on top – and that assumption is ridiculously unrealistic.
The carbon cost of producing the EV is higher though, but yeah long term still better as long as you use it for like 5 years and don’t get a new one whenever it comes out like it’s an iPhone.
Past the first generation of Leafs when battery chemistry was kooky, it looks like EV batteries are lasting long term really well. With the moving parts reduced from something like 850 in a ICE car to something like 35 in an EV, its entirely likely EVs last way, way longer.
And when the car battery doesn’t hold enough charge for driving anymore, you can reuse it in battery banks to buffer solar and wind energy fluctuations.
After several more years, it can be recycled almost entirely to get the rare earth elements back from it.
That’s not what I meant. I think fixing the issues our system is causing to global ecology have to come from systemic and societal changes, not from individual consumer choices.
So I guess the point of me saying electric cars aren’t the best always is to keep people from thinking “I bought an electric car, I’ve done everything I can for the environment so I can stop trying now.”
I have a phev car, and I almost never charge it - 2.5h of charging and going to parking garage to unplug was too much of a cost to be offset by “almost free” 50km of range. Guess who is charging the car now?
ok what are ICE cars LOL
electric cars also aren’t always the best if the electricity is generated by coal or something
Internal Combustion Engine, if memory serves.
once more: FUCK ICE!
Unless we’re talking about German ICE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercity_Express
Chinga la migra!
Actually untrue. Because internal combustion engines (ICEs) are so inherently inefficient, even an EV powered 100% by electricity from a coal-fired plant (accounting for electrical transmission loss) comes out on top – and that assumption is ridiculously unrealistic.
The carbon cost of producing the EV is higher though, but yeah long term still better as long as you use it for like 5 years and don’t get a new one whenever it comes out like it’s an iPhone.
Past the first generation of Leafs when battery chemistry was kooky, it looks like EV batteries are lasting long term really well. With the moving parts reduced from something like 850 in a ICE car to something like 35 in an EV, its entirely likely EVs last way, way longer.
And when the car battery doesn’t hold enough charge for driving anymore, you can reuse it in battery banks to buffer solar and wind energy fluctuations.
After several more years, it can be recycled almost entirely to get the rare earth elements back from it.
You mean pay a subscription.
Riiiight… let’s blame the consumer.
That’s not what I meant. I think fixing the issues our system is causing to global ecology have to come from systemic and societal changes, not from individual consumer choices.
So I guess the point of me saying electric cars aren’t the best always is to keep people from thinking “I bought an electric car, I’ve done everything I can for the environment so I can stop trying now.”
edit: spelling
You still use coal for power like it’s the 1800s? Solar panels are pretty cheap at this point.
Somehow, Trump is doing more to push renewables than any other president.
I have a phev car, and I almost never charge it - 2.5h of charging and going to parking garage to unplug was too much of a cost to be offset by “almost free” 50km of range. Guess who is charging the car now?
Internal Combustion Engine cars… ie
carbohydratehydrocarbon burners.I think you mean hydrocarbon*
yeah you want a carbohydrate-burning vehicle you get a bicycle
Fair. I am foreign, we call it benzine.
Benzene is a type of hydrocarbon, so neither is wrong.
True
So Italian cars? If only I could put pasta in my car, instead of gasoline…
Fuck yeah