Iran may have found the move Trump can never play
Original article:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/22/world/iran-war-oil-trump
Iran may have found the move Trump can never play
Original article:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/22/world/iran-war-oil-trump
I don’t think you two are getting the point. It is the way it is because of Trump’s illegal war.
not just illegal – arguably like every US action since WWII it’s not legally even a war
But the reason it’s as f–ed up as it is is because Trump went in without
NATO wasn’t going to help after he spent the last year threatening Greenland and Canada with invasion.
See above.
There was no way to stop it. No plan was feasible. He did it anyway.
It may weasel out of being a war by US law, but by international law it’s no less a war than the Russian “special military operation”.
Didn’t they bring two additional aircraft carriers into the region like a month before the “preemptive” strike that kicked this off? Also heard rumblings that the US has been moving quite a lot of aircraft into the region since like December
One was already in place. But was supposed to go in for maintenance like a month ago.
The other had to be sent in from IIRC the Pacific, much like the ship full of Marines currently on its way (that should have been in place a month ago if there was any chance they’d be needed…)
Uh… this war would not be less fucked up if it was run more competently. It’d be worse, in fact, as can be seen in Iraq.
Getting rid of the religious fascist terror-exporting state of Iran is a worthy goal.
Blowing everything up is not a useful nor moral path toward that goal.
Being invaded by an asshole authoritarian doesn’t really justify attacking literally everyone in reach with arms funneled in from two other asshole authoritarians.
Not that I’m particularly fond of Exxon Mobil, Dubai, or Qatar.
There is no “good side” in this fight.
They’re mainly attacking US bases and related infrastructure in those countries, which is 100% justified
Don’t paint Iran as nice guys. Or even as civilized. These are more racist, more homophobic, more religious nutjob, than any Grand Wizard of the KKK ever was. Part of their M.O. is literally just sowing chaos and straight-up civilian-killing terror.
Here’s the rub - the UN charter doesn’t have a seperate set of rules for countries you don’t think are civilized. That’s not how international law works.
We either try to have a rules based international order or we don’t. Without it, we sow the seeds for nuclear proliferation and great power / law of the jungle politics.
Right now Trump is aligned with Iran, China, and Russia in attempting to dismantle the rules-based order.
Europe, S Korea, Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico largely trying to preserve what they can
Uh… Setting aside how half (but not all, to be clear) of what you just said is propaganda, how does that have anything to do with what I said?
Eh, the racist bit is really underserved. They probably have the least racist society of the region, that is still horrible by liberal standards, but it’s less worse than everybody around them.
“mainly” but they’ve also damaged civillian airports while firing hundreds of missiles and drones, as well as the aforementioned cargo ships. The only thing keeping casualties down is how ineffective Iranian/Russian/Chinese weapons have been against US air defence so far.
It doesn’t. But justification stops being a concern when the most powerful country on Earth decided to extinguish you.
All of the people Iran has attacked are directly aiding and abetting the criminal Americans.
So when the USA warmongers and preemptively attacks it’s bad
When Iran warmongers and preemptively attacks it’s good
Got it, understood.
I’m not saying it’s good or bad, I’m saying it’s not the escalation you’re claiming it is. Iran is in an existential war against the world’s strongest superpower. It’s allowed to defend itself, and they have deemed that the best way to do that is to disrupt the global economy to the point that the war isn’t worth it. It’s quite an immediately effective strategy, too, and will hasten the end of the war far faster than bombing schools or whatever it is that the US’s strategy is.
Iran is not in any such war against the USA, against Israel maybe though, only the IRGC is at risk of disappearing.
Lies and misinformation. The US killed over a million Iraqi civilians and the country is still less stable than under Saddam Husein. Similar stories for Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. War is always an existential threat. The only reason you think it can be clean and sanitary is because you have been propagandized.
Add in the genocidal tendencies of Israel, and Iran starts looking very much like the good guy in this scenario.
My dude under the sun.
Iraq still exists.
We have cells that triggered are acting on orders of a dead man’s switch, and when you assassinate all possible leaders of a nation you no longer have anyone who can call off the initiated cells, nor speak for the nation to surrender