• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    3 days ago

    Being invaded by an asshole authoritarian doesn’t really justify attacking literally everyone in reach with arms funneled in from two other asshole authoritarians.

    Not that I’m particularly fond of Exxon Mobil, Dubai, or Qatar.

    There is no “good side” in this fight.

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      They’re mainly attacking US bases and related infrastructure in those countries, which is 100% justified

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        Don’t paint Iran as nice guys. Or even as civilized. These are more racist, more homophobic, more religious nutjob, than any Grand Wizard of the KKK ever was. Part of their M.O. is literally just sowing chaos and straight-up civilian-killing terror.

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          Here’s the rub - the UN charter doesn’t have a seperate set of rules for countries you don’t think are civilized. That’s not how international law works.

          We either try to have a rules based international order or we don’t. Without it, we sow the seeds for nuclear proliferation and great power / law of the jungle politics.

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            Right now Trump is aligned with Iran, China, and Russia in attempting to dismantle the rules-based order.

            Europe, S Korea, Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico largely trying to preserve what they can

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          Uh… Setting aside how half (but not all, to be clear) of what you just said is propaganda, how does that have anything to do with what I said?

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          Eh, the racist bit is really underserved. They probably have the least racist society of the region, that is still horrible by liberal standards, but it’s less worse than everybody around them.

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        “mainly” but they’ve also damaged civillian airports while firing hundreds of missiles and drones, as well as the aforementioned cargo ships. The only thing keeping casualties down is how ineffective Iranian/Russian/Chinese weapons have been against US air defence so far.

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      It doesn’t. But justification stops being a concern when the most powerful country on Earth decided to extinguish you.

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        2 days ago

        So when the USA warmongers and preemptively attacks it’s bad

        When Iran warmongers and preemptively attacks it’s good

        Got it, understood.

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          I’m not saying it’s good or bad, I’m saying it’s not the escalation you’re claiming it is. Iran is in an existential war against the world’s strongest superpower. It’s allowed to defend itself, and they have deemed that the best way to do that is to disrupt the global economy to the point that the war isn’t worth it. It’s quite an immediately effective strategy, too, and will hasten the end of the war far faster than bombing schools or whatever it is that the US’s strategy is.

          • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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            Iran is not in any such war against the USA, against Israel maybe though, only the IRGC is at risk of disappearing.

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              Lies and misinformation. The US killed over a million Iraqi civilians and the country is still less stable than under Saddam Husein. Similar stories for Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. War is always an existential threat. The only reason you think it can be clean and sanitary is because you have been propagandized.

              Add in the genocidal tendencies of Israel, and Iran starts looking very much like the good guy in this scenario.

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      We have cells that triggered are acting on orders of a dead man’s switch, and when you assassinate all possible leaders of a nation you no longer have anyone who can call off the initiated cells, nor speak for the nation to surrender