• dellish@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    “Guys! GUYS! You really depend on the oil that flows through the Strait so come and help me open it!”

    “But your actions closed it in the first place.”

    “OMG I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU WON’T HELP! :`(”

    Fuck me, this is what international politics and diplomacy have become.

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      Also, most NATO countries don’t really depend that much on that oil. Most of it goes to Asia.

      It’s the various US allies in the gulf that are going to be feeling the pinch the most. If oil isn’t getting out, they won’t be getting paid. And they’re getting pelted by Iranian drones to boot.

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        Not just that, but Europe is able to pay the oil price, although Russia getting it is a problem. At the same time oil consumption is half of the USAs and falling due to BEVs and heat pumps. It is probably a lot cheaper then to go to war.

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        “don’t really depend that much on that oil”

        Then why tf do I have to pay 30cts/liter more for gasoline?

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          All sold at “market rates” no matter the source.

          Same reason I pay gas electricity prices, when most of it is made by wind turbines.

          This is our life on capitalism…

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          Okay, some people depend on that oil. I don’t, because I ride a bike.

          We should all have gotten out of our oil dependency a long time ago, but apparently politicians prefer being dependent on questionable regimes in unstable regions.

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            depend on that oil. I don’t, because I ride a bike.

            I dont remember the exact number, but about half of the nitrogen in your body was made using oil/fossil fuels. This is the ultimate climate end boss fight, manufacturing everything without sucking (more) oil from the ground. Until this happens we are all slaves of it.

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              As long as we don’t put more CO2 in the air, it’s not that big of a problem, but I think we’ve got more than enough nitrogen in our biosphere already. The excess nitrogen is causing pollution problems by itself.

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                Yes. Part of the inputs to Haber bosch process is natural gas and a ton of process heat. The hydrogen source has to be switched to H2 from electrolyzers and the plant can’t burn the NG for heat. So the energy cost for switching is very steep. This transition is huge, as it would decouple production of food from fossil fuels.

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            I don’t, because I ride a bike.

            What an unbelievably stupid thing to say. Do the fields where your food grows ride a bike as well? Did your bike ride a bike to the store you bought it at? Did the clothes on your back ride a bike to your wardrobe?

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              It might surprise you, but stuff I already have is unaffected by the recent increase in fuel costs.

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                Transportation costs will rise throughout the entire supply chain, including consumables/perishables, it will affect you unless you’re self sufficient for those too.

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                  It’ll undoubtedly have some effect, but I’m not seeing any difference at the pump, because I don’t go there.

                  And I already try to buy my food locally sourced. Shorter supply chains proved to be more robust during Covid too. All this international trade with unstable parts of the world makes us more vulnerable than we need to be.