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Yeah sure you can do that but people won’t listen. What I mean by thought police is actually doing policing, like “no you can’t say that or we will arrest you” which goes against the idea of freedom of speech. It’s reminiscent of when ussr was jailing karate teachers

Well yes, and I think it’s probably true, you can use one model to train another, effectively cloning it. It seems like it’s much more expensive to make the first round of good models. Part of the argument could be that openai/anthropic are actually still driving the frontier, developing the researchers and expertise to do that, and continuing to innovate the tech

Yeah you can’t do a thought police

Yeah, the situation got resolved when harm came in. You gotta commit an actual crime to be punished right? I’m familiar with the documentary and actually have friends who continue to be followers of Osho’s teachings. It’s not all bad, there was a lot of very good outcomes for some people’s health and wellness there too, the documentary frames it as a situation where the second in command basically drugged him and became an egomaniac. Shit happens. When evaluating cults, which are basically just small religions, the best criteria is about how much they help their constituents and community vs how much do they demand from them. It’s worth noting that many of the cults of America’s past were more Christian branded and became gigantic, with some mix of outcomes. But the alternative of not allowing people to express the freedoms of religion and speech would be much worse in my opinion

We don’t, that’s what freedom of religion means. If it gets overly militant or political, then there are already mechanisms that come and raid and disband them, which we have seen many times in the history of America