Sometimes, your opponent is correct (or has knowledge to be gleaned from their propaganda, even if the outward conclusion is incorrect) and it’s an opportunity to learn and improve. Not for liberals though, with the reactionary drive to get “back to normal” or “make america great again”.

Just stand by lowly worker and they’ll let you know what your next opinion should be.

Truly the only group of people worthy of marching us into the sea.

Yep I’m getting pretty sickened by what I hear on corpo media about this and other recent events. Sanewashing might be the term, but at the least they try to hash out reasonings and strategy and speculation like it’s Sunday Night Football instead of the full-blown fascist thrashing that it is. These news orgs stumbling over themselves to take more of the dollary dick, desperate to maintain the thin veneer of civility that has been cultivated by their owners over generations. Fools and cowards the lot of them.

Ah yes I see European solidarity is alive and well. No chance you’ll ever have fascism again over there with statements like that. Truly a bastion of the brightest and best ideals of humanity.

/s

The essence of hollow idealism. False promises from malicious prophets in search of profits. “A shrewd businessman” we’re expected to call them, but the veneer wears thin.

I’m trying to imagine what sort of evidence would be sufficient to convince the majority of his base… The “fake” deflect is too strong now with fake videos and audio being so easy to create.

You’re presupposing they would have 1) done it anyway and 2) at the same time it actually happened. They may have reconsidered their attack or delayed it. The delay could have given opportunity for the dynamics to change.

Arresting journalists from a huge news company would come with some blowback. The internal weighing of that potential blowback and how it affects the regime’s relations could have changed things. At the very least, it complicates things for them further - stalling them, making them waste time on listening and responding and managing the media to craft the narrative.

Stay strong friend. Take care of yourself and who else you can.

Under rule of her by duress, not open-ended self-determination. The mission wasn’t “we’re gonna remove a dictator and let the people of Venezuela determine their destiny, let us know how we can help ma’am.” It was “your guy is a narcoterrorist [citation needed] and we’re gonna rebuild your oil infrastructure.” So in your opinion it’s not imperialism because we don’t yet have a colony there? I’m really struggling to grasp why you don’t think this is an expression of imperialism.

US Imperialism has expressed itself throughout history in many ways, regardless of congressional approval and regardless of its status as a “war” or not. You should do some reading on how Hawaii became a state, for one example among many. Also there’s this.

You’re comparing a non-fiction, evolving scenario of US imperialism to a fictional scenario where a “somebody” removes a guy you don’t like with zero strings attached, no ulterior motives, and no stated motives or historical context before or after.

Your comparison is poor, half-thought (IMO), and driven by catharsis. You are tacitly endorsing hegemony - a position enabled by your subconscious knowing (or hoping) that your general safety and comfort is protected living inside of a fascist superpower.

I read statements like yours and my heart hurts.

I’m not so sure the founders intended for everyday folk to have power, regardless of the flowery language in the documents we know them for. Lately I’m questioning everything I was taught (or hoped) this country was. The more I look at our situation now and compare it to history, I feel like we’re on course with the ideals we’ve demonstrated since our inception.

I just feel incredibly disappointed, disgusted… Lots of things.

Piss bottles, for one. You should listen to the workers who have gone on strike at Amazon. You’ll hear it direct instead of some talking head.

Your opinions of companies shouldn’t end at how much spit they put on your knob as a consumer. These companies do real damage to the world around you - regardless of their saccharin smiles when you’re looking to give them money.

So good communication is lying to people instead of trying to achieve higher understanding? Just keep dumbing down discourse so long as it gets you some short-term gain?

Wow, with thought like that it’s no wonder Americans voted in fascism. You’re supposed to be on the “good” side? I see why Democrats are more than happy to smash leftists teeth in alongside their fascist counterparts. 'm sure you’ll get there when chips are down.