Yeah that’s the big one for me too. Places like doctor’s offices, mechanic shop, anywhere there’s a decent chance their phone system is one of those like not quite “corporate call center” but more than “collection of company cell phones”
Idk the more I think about it the more I think it was more the worry that Trump might actually have been able to whip enough votes to actually get rid of the filibuster. Because I feel like with the air lobby money they’d had to have felt like the easier path for them would have been to get Republicans to agree to the offer that Schumer put on the table the other day right? Like idk maybe they were worried about Trump siccing DoT or whoever on them but I still feel like business wise anybody with half a brain would have seen this backlash coming and how much of a risk that would be to the politicians they’ve bought and paid for right? Then they’ve gotta waste all this money fighting the primary challenges or trying to buy whoever unseats the guy they’ve already bought. So I’ve gotta feel like the cheapest option for them would be pressuring the Republicans to agree to Schumer’s limp dick “deal” he offered the other day and taking whatever retaliation Trump brings on the chin and trying to placate him with another ego donation or something right?
So I’m feeling more and more like it’s gotta be that Schumer was worried that Trump might actually have been close to getting Thune to agree to nuke the filibuster.
Yeah, much harder to do their little “Revolving Door Villain” Strategy when all it takes is a simple majority to do anything. Not impossible mind you, but definitely much harder.
I can almost guarantee you at this point that it was either the air travel lobby, or dems being worried that Trump might actually be able to whip the votes to nuke the filibuster. Leaning more towards the filibuster at this moment.
In my mind it was 100% either pressure from the air travel lobby, or because they thought Trump might actually get the votes to nuke the filibuster.
The ones that voted are either A) Retiring, or B) Not up for Reelection in '26, yes.
They almost certainly did this either under pressure from the air travel lobby to not let this disrupt the thanksgiving air travel season, or because they were actually worried that Trump was going to get enough votes to nuke the filibuster.
Idk, the list I saw last was:
Alaska
California
Illinois
Louisiana
Nevada
Oregon
Vermont
Wisconsin
I’m not super knowledgeable about all of these states, it’s pretty conceivable that California or Nevada might be able to shift things around and pay people. But like Louisiana? Pretty sure they get way more from the federal government than they give in taxes. It seems kinda crazy that they’d have the money to fund their own SNAP recipients. According to one of the legal creators I follow the administration was fighting to only pay out the 5 or so billion that the USDA contingency fund had and I guess there are filings that indicate that they have paid out that much.
So it sounds to me like they had intended to just give everybody a pittance, not enough to really do anything as a full fuck you to as many people as possible. Then fucked it up and accidentally released full funds in a free-for-all to states that were able to snap them up quickly enough and between their own budgets and that money those 8 have been able to fully pay out their SNAP recipients.
But as things stand right now KBJ’s stay is over, it lasted max 48 hours after the lower court issued their ruling on whether they’d hear the administration’s appeal of the orders to fund SNAP. Which it seems that ruling amounted to “Fuck you, pay SNAP. And pay it from your tariff money” basically. I guess the most recent order tells them to fund the rest of the missing SNAP funds from this pool of funds called Section 32 funds which I guess he was trying to take the remaining money out of the Child Nutrition Fund so like the School Lunch program and stuff. So that’s a whole different pot of cruelty.
I was seeing conflicting things about that. I saw some things saying there were States trying to shift funds around to pay SNAP recipients, then others saying it was USDA money that the administration was trying to claw back before the whole stay, order getting reaffirmed, then last night the dems voting to open the government. So I’m not sure how that actually shakes out.
My understanding though about the stay was that it wasn’t the whole court, just KBJ because she handles such things for that district. That it was set to expire 48 hours after the lower court issued their ruling on the broader appeal which they did a couple hours later on Friday(declined the appeal) from what I remember reading and the stay expired yesterday and today the original court reaffirmed the funding order.
That’s my understanding of where things sit at this time. Not sure where any of this lands with the dems caving on ending the shutdown though.
For someone who isn’t invested in this and how this is supposedly not a hill you’re gonna die on, you sure keep coming back to argue lmao. Not even properly saying what I said either that’s crazy.
Yuuuuuup. But don’t worry guys. The Democrats get to write the bill they’re going to vote on! That’s something, right?
I’m one of the people dependent on it. Yes I’m aware of the bullshit excuses they’re peddling. But unfortunately the way our legal system is structured, it doesn’t fucking matter that everyone with half a braincell knows they’re lying because it doesn’t automatically force them to do the right thing.
Last I heard, 8 States managed to get their full November allotment out before the stay. what happens to everyone else when the fucking liars get to reasonably claim “oh no we have no more money” and it doesn’t matter that we know they’re lying because they’re still paying ICE because that’s not what they were ordered to do? Then they have to start a whole new set of fucking litigation and it gets bogged down longer.
So while I’m happy for the people who were able to get paid out their SNAP and would totally love to be able to buy my kids food because we’re really struggling right now, I cannot give the slightest fuck about a 2 day stay while the lower court figures out their shit.
I’m not defending anything. But there is a little bit more to the discussion on the SNAP stay thing than just saying “court blocked SNAP order”
It’s boring, it’s stupid, I hate that our fucking courts are structured like this. But the adminstration also can’t be allowed to just let the funds be a free for all and just let whoever is able to grab their SNAP funds get food while everyone else now has to sue again to get them to comply with the original order.
I can almost guarantee you they were looking at Thanksgiving travel plans coming up and that was it.
Son of a nice lady!
Jokes aside. I’m going to preface this by saying fuck the Trump administration for trying to starve people like my family and fuck the Democrats for capitulating to them. But my understanding on this is actually that “fully funding” SNAP for the entire country would take more than what that contingency fund had and that was the main driver behind the block. The plan was to send out partial payments from the fund but some states started moving faster than others and got their whole allotments. Probably not the best idea to just let as I understand it like 2/3s of enough money be first come first served. So the order got blocked temporarily while some procedural stuff got ironed out.
Like, entirely fuck the Trump administration for creating this problem. But if the stuff I’m reading is accurate, not blocking it to give the court a chance to figure out procedure stuff could have been a massive shit show.
Already capitulated actually. Senate voted last night to reopen the government on nothing but vague assurances of a vote on extending the ACA subsidies.
idk I read it as they hadn’t gotten their food yet and the request for no pickles was ignored as in the server or whoever didn’t acknowledge it had been made. So this was Daisy cutting in and making sure that Luigi was heard.
Important enough for you to leave a face saving comment about how you definitely weren’t wrong and definitely aren’t dying on this hill and it’s actually me that’s silly for finding examples of what I’m taking about lmao 🤡
You… you do know that most comic book style lettering doesn’t do regular like lower and upper case right? It’s all generally upper case and they use the bubbles to indicate yelling vs regular speech vs thought etc
Seeing how your reaction to actual debate is to entirely ignore the actual points being made and double down you’ve probably got no business debating either 🤡🤡🤡
“Basic Biology” MFs Try Not to Get Biology Wrong Challenge. Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE
The amount of men I’ve heard try to claim that it’s 100% the woman’s fault if a baby is a boy or a girl man. Fucking staggering.