A homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona is locked in a dispute with his homeowner’s association over his practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway.

  • joostjakob@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    How anyone that lives in a country that has HOAs can unironically call it “land of the free” is beyond me

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      5 months ago

      What do you think a city or state is? Gotta have rules, good luck living in a neighborhood without a HOA when the fat shirtless guy next door turns his front lawn into an open air trash heap.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        My city has bylaws for that sort of thing. I can’t let my grass turn into a jungle either. That’s also a bylaw. Shoveling snow into the street? Guess what, bylaw.

        Don’t need an HOA full of overbearing Karen’s to Lord over me about what color I painted my garage on top of the fairly loose bylaws that I also need to abide by.

        At least with bylaws they’re enforced by public workers, not Karen from next door.

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          You guys are wrong. The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don’t care about your property. That’s what the HOA is for.

          You can’t leave your trash on the sidewalk (city property) randomly, the city can’t do jack shit if some slob leaves his trash on his lawn.

          Until rats set in. You guys comfortable leaving things degenerate to that level until the city acts?

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              5 months ago

              That’s my point. They’ll do something when it’s three feet tall, but maybe I want the neighbor to cut it before it reaches that level?

              • Null User Object@lemmy.world
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                That’s my point.

                No, that wasn’t your point. Now you’re moving the goal post. Your point was, and I quote,

                The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don’t care about your property.

                Plus, the article explicitly states that the ordinance specifies 12 inches, not three feet.

                You can keep digging your hole deeper, but it’s not going to support your claim. Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong.

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                  They don’t care about your property, right. No one wants 12 inch grass.

                  It is you who is wrong. The HOAs exist to make people respect human living conditions, not the contractor-grade specs the city enforces for its purposes.

                  Try to picture a city with just the city rules enforced. All right, it’s 1 foot tall grass, not three feet. OK, it’s three trash bags with rats, not 12.

                  That enough? Of course it isn’t.

                  The grass matters to the city when it overflows onto its property. One hopes that in the vast majority of cases, people will maintain their property a bit better on their own. The HOA just makes it possible to ensure that. The vast majority of HOAs aren’t PITAs, only the extreme stories make it to the news.

                  If you like your lawn 1 foot tall with trash bags everywhere, move to where there is no HOA. I realize there are fewer and fewer trailer parks these days, but that’s not my fault.

                  I don’t know how to put it simpler.

                  " Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong."

                  It’s “you’re”, and I’m not, and take your own advice.