• TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk
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    House of the Dragon. It’s a masterpiece! Incredible writing, exquisite character development, tense political manoeuvring and in the rare moment of action, an unrivalled level of spectacle.

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      I don’t hate HoD, I just don’t care about it.

      With that said, Exquisite writing? The whole of last season could have been two episodes.

      It was wild how Rhaenyra basically teleported back and forth to king’s landing and everything Daemon did was half an episode stretched out across the entire season.

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        If I’m not mistaken you’re talking about plot rather than writing. I’m talking about the crackling dialogue and the incredible acting that carries it. It almost Shakespearean at times.

        “The Dragons dance and men are like dust under their feet. And all our fine thoughts, all of our endeavors are as nothing. We march now toward our annihilation… To die will be a kind of relief.”

        I mean. Come the fuck on!!! That’s top draw writing if ever it happened! Particularly when it comes from such a headstrong character.

        The eldritch imaginings of Herrenhall are obviously pretty weird (wyrd maybe even) and I understand that can be polarising, but it had some real Macbeth energy that I’m also very much down for.

        In terms of plot, because of the great writing the repositioning of factions and characters was fascinating to me. The way and the why each of those new positions arrived kept me utterly hooked.

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          I’m not going to comment on House of the Dragon (as I haven’t seen it) but the term “writing” is very broad, and refers to the screenplay as a whole.

          Settings, scene transitions, character actions and dialogue are all part of the screenplay, and so plot holes are very much writing criticisms, even if other aspects of the writing such as the dialogue are sharp.

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            Then I may very well be mistaken. I’ve always thought of it as the words that get from the page to my ears. I guess there’s a lot more to a screenplay than that though. I stand corrected.

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    Enterprise, the series, if they dint make xindi being the whole season 3, i think more people wouldve recieved it better. Plus LES moonves doomed the franchise

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      Xindi could have been a really cool plotline if it didn’t function as Bush doctrine apologism. Shit, even if they didn’t lay it on so thick.

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    Friends. Sure, many of the jokes haven’t aged well, and the laugh track can be a bit too much for modern audiences, but it became an icon of its generation for a reason. I get that some people may not vibe with it, but it’s nowhere near as bad as the mainstream Lemmy makes it out to be.

    On that note, I really miss that kind of “wholesome” sitcom. It feels like newer sitcoms are all about cringe or the ridiculous lives of shitty people. While Friends’ cast may not have been paragons of humanity, they were, or at least so in the first half of the show, good, regular people. I miss that in TV.

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    LOST, specifically the finale. There seems to be a common misunderstanding that the finale meant “they were dead the entire time”.

    spoiler

    The Flash Forward timeline was them in a kind of purgatory where they all went after they died. They stayed there so they could all move on together. The rest of the main timeline on the island, flashbacks, etc were their actual lives in the show.

    I’m not a religious or spiritual person at all, but for a scifi/fantasy show like LOST I thought it was a cool way to wrap things up.

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        only a lost hater would lack the reading comprehension to understand that isn’t a spoiler. it’s a misconception, so it’s not spoiling anything.

        also the show is 20 years old, shut the fuck up about spoiler nitpicking.

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          Idk man if you’re gonna bother with a spoiler warning, the fact that they’re even presented as in purgatory/dead is mostly the spoiler, you only hid the analysis.

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      Same, I don’t even like the show but my girlfriend watches it occasionally and it’s…fine, I laugh sometimes. The amount of people online who complain about it and vehemently hate it is tiresome. Yes, it has a laugh track, yes, there are much better shows to watch, and yes to a number of other reasons it is not a great show. But, the amount of time and energy people devote to complaining about something they don’t like is stupid to me. Cool, you don’t like this thing that most people (myself included) in this space don’t like either, we don’t need yet another post complaining about it again. Please move on and don’t let something so trivial take up so much space in your head.

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        I think the issue with BBT is that it was so ubiquitous, it was just massively visible for a long time for such a bland, cheesy show.

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          I think what often gets underestimated is that bland/cheesy/predictable can sometimes be exactly what people are looking for. Imo these kind of shows/movies are a bit like white noise, sometimes people just want to zone out or have some background noise. In that case a show being good or complex might actually be negative, since you might psychologically feel bad if you miss something.

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      The show is what it is. If you want cheap laughs and to not think too hard it’s perfect. I liked it. It does get a bit two dimensional after a while, so we quit watching it. It was fine while we enjoyed it, so it served its purpose. No need to hate it.

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    The 7th season of The Game of Thrones. I absolutely loved it.

    Got really started to show its cracks in the fourth season and the fifth season was fucking terrible. The only redeeming episode in all of the fifth season was the battle of Hardhome. The show started improving in the sixth season.

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      Watched the series 3 times (pirated). As originally aired, second time, third time couldn’t retain interest by the end of season 6.

      But the show fits the question, all in all. Best series I’ve ever seen. The new Shogun rates higher with me, but it was a different show, much shorter.

      Anyway, the hate over the end is ridiculously overblown. I get that people felt cheated, but the end doesn’t wipe out the brilliance of the first several years.