What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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    Edit to add: Oh, that one was already in my previous comment. Sorry for repeating myself. Here’s a talk by Parenti to summarize.


    Also the idea that NATO caused the Bosnian Genocide is laughable. The bombing is the only reason it stopped.

    Tell me you didn’t engage with the material I provided without telling me you didn’t engage with the material I provided. Here’s another: Michael Parenti » To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia

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      I engaged with it. It’s saying the Serbs were responding to a proxy war initiated by the CIA when they were literally just exterminating Bosnians.

      You can give me your summary but I’m not reading any more dubious links on the matter, especially when link bashing is being used as a rhetoric device to prevent your argument being challenged.

      And again:

      1. NATO did not attack Russia
      2. Russia invaded Ukraine

      Do Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves from Russian imperialism?

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        especially when link bashing is being used as a rhetoric device to prevent your argument being challenged.

        I’m “link bashing” because I’ve already covered this territory—with sources/evidence—several times on Lemmy, though not nearly as many times as the Ukraine war.

        And again:

        1. NATO did not attack Russia
        2. Russia invaded Ukraine

        Okay? No one is saying otherwise.

        Do Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves from Russian imperialism?

        Again no one is saying otherwise. As for Russian “imperialism,” I already covered it elsewhere in this very post, and dozens of times before.

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          Again no one is saying otherwise.

          I’m very confused now. Because it seems like we actually agree with each other then and I’m not sure why we’re fighting.

          I think NATO sucks, but I also think Russia does. The only thing I care about in this situation is Ukrainian autonomy.

          If you believe Ukraine has a right to self defense and self determination then we’re in agreement.