• Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.social
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    1 day ago

    You are wrong in that, yes. Voting is the most basic form of civil participation. It’s like paying your bus fare. Riding the bus is not praxis.

    It’s a whole lot easier to organize when you’re able to pressure those in power, though. There is a meaningful difference in organizing conditions under leaders like Zohran Mamdani and even liberals like Joe Biden than it is under fascist regimes.

    I’d rather have leaders who are afraid of getting voted out than leaders who want to crush all resistance, and you’re a fool for acting as though it doesn’t matter.

    Please go outside.

    • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
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      What do you mean when you use the word praxis? I’m using it in the “actions one takes in order to manifest some change within society”. I do agree with you that voting and riding the bus generally aren’t a form of praxis. However, historically the freedom riders were able to make “riding the bus” a form of praxis and it’s not ancient history where voting was praxis for those wealthy enough.

      the most basic form of civil participation

      No. The most basic form of civil participation is waving to your neighbors, the next step is small talk and then lending some salt/sugar/tarps/etc. as needed, so on.

      Voting is the most basic form of legitimization.

      There is a meaningful difference in organizing conditions

      Oh I agree, it’s impossible to organize when people insist on the need “to pressure those in power” when the whole point of organizing is to redistribute said power.

      Biden and Mamdani serve the same fascist state as Trump and Harrell. Without going to suicidal extremes the amount of pressure all of us can exude will never outweigh that of the capital class. Their power must be recaptured before there is any talk of pressuring anyone into anything.

      I’d rather have leaders who are afraid of getting voted out

      Those people you’ve listed are primarily figureheads and they will be the first to tell you their actual power is very limited. Why do you insist on following them?

      Please go outside.

      Again with this thought terminating cliche? What happened to “You have no idea what people are up to.”?