Any systems of government run by people in a time of resource limits, and when money is still in wide use, will inevitably become corrupt.
Once we can have anything we want, whenever we want, then maybe we’ll be free.
I like your attitude, but no one is right all the time. I bet you burnt a pizza once. RIP your pizza
Authoritarian Dictatorships famously never become corrupt after all
Capitalist dictatorship (IE liberal / bourgeios “democracy”) by definition is corrupt, in that it is a form of goverment where propertied and rich interests control the country, to the detriment of its exploited workers, who have no say or representation in their government. You’re “free” to yell into the void as long as your complaints don’t affect anything, at which point your movement will be crushed violently.
Its pure projection that liberals call every other form of government that challenges their rule a “dictatorship”, and rely on decades of ingrained anti-communist cold-war propaganda to cement it.
Unfortunately many people accept their propaganda willingly without challenging the cold-war dogma, or looking into how actually or previously existing socialist states had functional, substantive democracy, not the fake “democracy in name only” that liberal countries are selling you.
I never said that I was a liberal. If anything, I consider myself a market socialist since anything needed to survive shouldn’t be comdified for capital.
I’m simply saying that giving one man absolute power whether it be political or through wealth will inevitably lead to corruption. After all, the meme states that tankies are “always right”, and I’m assuming that by tankie they mean the authoritarian left like Stalinism, Maoism, etc.
I don’t see why you believe socialist democracies to be inherently more corrupt than capitalist “democracies.”
I believe that the meme I was responding to referred to “tankies” always being right, which would mean communist, not socialist.
Socialism is not an end point. It is the transitionary phase between capitalism and communism.
Yep, thank you.
Communism is post-socialist, and has not existed yet.
could you define authoritarianism for the class? you may be as brief or extensive as you wish. the floor is yours, democracy crusader.
Authoritarianism broadly speaking is just a strong central government, so I suppose it’s not always a dictatorship per say I’d that’s what your point is. However, even still, there would be a class of people with absolute power over the populous just like the rich towering over the poor under capitalism. So it’d essentially be the government putting the boot over your neck instead of the billionaires
Having a strong central government under the control of the working classes is possible, though, as exists in socialist countries. It indeed uses this absolute power against enemies of the state, but in this case the enemies are capitalists, fascists, sabateurs, etc, and the state truly democratic in the sense that it represents the majority. The state can only be under the control of a definite class, it does not exist outside of class struggle but within it.
You’re very clearly a “baby leftist” from your few comments here so I really don’t want you to take this the wrong way. You really need to read some theory. Your heart is seemingly in the right place but that doesn’t mean much when you have yet to deconstruct your liberal foundations and actually come to understand the how and why of scientific socialism.
there are very few liberals on .ml lol
“Lemmy” in the subject meaning, presumably, the broader lemmy, not Lemmy.ml in particular.
Thankfully!
Hey its fine if you want to believe you’re right, we all think we are. Thats why we believe what we believe. But can you at least not call people libs for not wanting authoritarianism?
Behold the greatest advance in Liberal Theory since Harry Potter.
You mean wanting to run brutal authoritarian dictatorships in other countries to exploit their resources
You say, while defending the DNC elsewhere
ah yes socialism is when dictator and no iPhone
Authoritarianism is not a thing, and you can tell it’s not a thing by how nobody who uses it can define it in a way that doesn’t include every government on earth.
‘He shouts in the echo chamber’
lol
he mocks confidently because the western ruling class shares rhe same opinions he has
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Ah, my first customer, a .world lib classic LMBO
why is it always .world ? what’s happening there ?
.world is basically reddit. So they came here expecting clone of reddit but more convenient to use on their phones, but encountered numerous communists and the exposure to non-imperialist ideas made them incredibly uncomfortable. So they proceeded to do something they always do on reddit: snitching to the admins to deplatform communists. But it didn’t work because this is decentralised fediverse, not reddit. This made them extremely mad, so they defederated from two most prolific communist instances and random encounters on .ml make them pretty aggressive.
In short, .world is basically reddit.
I genuinely don’t mean to be a dick but it’s “exposure” not “exposition”
Indeed, thank you, no offense taken.
wait, that’s actually a really clever insult that i’ve never heard before!
it has no place here though. try twitter, maybe?
