• Soup@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      It’s always the progressives who need to rally behind the centrist, isn’t it? Never the other way around because you’re just a coward.

      How about you grow even an inch of a spine and rally behind someone who wants to make real change? How about you stop spending you life on this planet being nothing more than a barrier? Get it together.

      I really don’t give a damn whether you hate me or not, your opinion is worthless. You don’t know the first fucking thing about togetherness, just empty platitudes that make you comfortable so you don’t need to actually face anything difficult.

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          You literally said that progressives need to make real change by rallying behind unideal candidates who may be a little amoral. And you think it’s my fault for in-fighting because I want to focus on the more ideal and more moral options? Fucking please.

          I can’t tell if I’m more insulted that you’re lying to my face or that you would actually think I’d believe you. God, you truly are a pathetic little weasel, aren’t you?

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          It’s not infighting when one side supports Diet Republicans and the other side wants ICE to be abolished.

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      The working class rallying behind less than we deserve is how we got Trump. He didn’t emerge from nowhere. He’s a product of multiple presidents, Dems & GOP, who did not serve the American people. He easily fooled those who believed he’d do more because we’re all so conditioned to expect nothing. We need to do better than just picking the lesser of two evils every 4 years. We need to rally together, yes, but behind higher standards - not behind more politicians who are deeply lacking. Class consciousness and collective action is the only way to do this.

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      It’s people like you that need to realize that in the current political environment, establishment Dems have zero electability.

      Get behind a progressive candidate or expect to lose again.

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      all I’m pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage

      Expect that is also the logic dems/dnc have used that got us to this point.

      you have to vote for Kerry or else we still have Bush

      vote for Hillary she’s the only one who is qualified to beat the rnc - when running against Obama

      vote for Hillary she’s not trump - 2016

      primary voters vote for Biden he’s the only one who can beat Trump, we can’t let Bernie have a shot - 2020

      vote for Kamala, what do you want trump again??

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          No you are one of many saying vote for the dems no matter the terrible candidate while we’ve had nothing but failures from them, and constant capitulations to republicans. Especially when newsom is a republican just running as a dem like so many others in the party.

          Just because the republicans get instant loyalty does not mean any one owes a party votes. There’s no point in voting for the dems when either way it ends up with the same outcome

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              I’m pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral.

              we need the progressives to line up behind the right leaning dems

              It literally is but sure say it’s not