• Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    I fucking hate talking to you people. Youre so fucking desperate to be right all the fucking time. Are you like, scared of being wrong? Is that what it is? If youre hiring based on race, YOU are the racist. Kirk may well have been a racist, but this was not example of it. Calling out racism, isnt racist.

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        28 days ago

        lol If you dont like what Im saying, feel free to not reply. But we both know you cant do that, because you want your worthless fucking internet points from like minded culture war weirdos.

        Im happy to talk with people who arent dumb as fuck, as you clearly are. Agree with me or not, I dont care. Just fuck off with culture war popular thing thats a straight up and easily defeated lie.

        Fuck you peddlers of fake news/misinformation. Youre the reason the internet fucking sucks now. Hell, youre the reason cunts like Charlie Kirk had a fucking audience in the first place.

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      28 days ago

      Do you believe that it’s defensible to tell people to fear flying on a plane operated by qualified pilots because they are black?

      If yes, you’re racist. Full stop.

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        28 days ago

        He didnt do that though, which is the point Im making. What arent you getting here? He was talking about companies using black people and women and gay people to wash their shitty reputations. You dont like they way he was doing it? Thats totally fair. But THAT is what he was doing, he wasnt saying that being black makes a person inferior.

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          28 days ago

          From the Thought Crime podcast in January 2024:

          HOST: We’ve all been in the back of a plane when the turbulence hits or when you’re flying through a storm and you’re like, “I’m so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we took off. And I feel better now, thinking about that.”

          KIRK: You wanna go thought crime? I’m sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, “Boy, I hope he’s qualified.”

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            28 days ago

            lol Yes, post the whole the fucking transcript. But I bet you dont, cause then you’ll see Im right, and youve bought in to the grift that monetised your outrage.

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              28 days ago

              The context is that he said airlines are hiring unqualified people because they’re black, and that’s 100% horseshit. They’re all licensed, qualified pilots. They have to be by federal fucking law.

              There’s zero non-racist justification for fearing a pilot because they’re black.

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                  28 days ago

                  Okay then: explain the context in which Kirk saying people should be scared of qualified pilots because they’re black isn’t racist.

                  You can’t do it because it’s absolutely, 100% racist. He’s trying to pretend it’s about diversity programs meaning unqualified minorities are being hired over the (implicitly superior) white man, but his example is a profession with clearly-defined federal standards including mandatory aircraft-specific qualifications.

                  A pilot flying a commercial airliner is qualified, period. There’s no reason to fear a black pilot for any reason that isn’t racist. Which was fine by Kirk because he was a racist piece of shit, as is anyone defending his fear mongering.

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                    28 days ago

                    I already did, and more than once. Is reading really that hard for all of you??? Or are you all just terrified of being wrong?

                    Here, lets try coming at it from a different angle. Lets see if the special crayon approach works.

                    lets say, Im the owner of an airline, and you are whatever the opposite of Charlie Kirk looks like. I, only hire white male pilots. You, while talking about companies that hire based on skin colour say one of the following:

                    “Only white male pilots? Great, because obviously flying a multi-ton metal tube at 500 mph depends entirely on your skin colour and not, you know, skill or training.”

                    “Ah yes, forget flight hours and certifications, clearly the secret to a safe landing is having a penis and a specific melanin level.”

                    “Only white men? Brilliant strategy! Because turbulence, engine failure, and bad weather are obviously solved by outdated stereotypes instead of competence.”

                    “Of course! Forget merit; the real measure of a pilot’s ability is apparently their genetics. Who needs experience when you have arbitrary conformity?”

                    “Yes, let’s hire based on race and gender. Nothing screams ‘expert aviator’ like throwing decades of proven training out the window for pure bias.”

                    Are you, mild mannered chiliedog, now… Super-racist? Or, have you just employed wild exaggeration and hyperbole to get your point across? Whether or not you agree with his point, is another conversation. But the point he was making, is not that black men were inferior to white men. It was that hiring based on race wasnt going to get you the very best pilots(but he wasnt just talking about pilots).

                    Lets try something else. The NBA is currently around 13% white American. And that only rises to 17.5% if you include international white players. No one gives a fuck about diversity in the NBA, do they? Why? Because we all know that its merit based. No one is hiring white dudes to make up the numbers. If white dudes are in there, its because they earned it. Just like the black dudes did. If, all of sudden, some team started hiring white players because “diversity”, youd have something to say about it. Sure, they can all play the game. But are they the best? And if they arent, are you racist for not wanting them on your team? This isnt quite the same thing that Kirk was talking about, but you get the idea. Hiring based on skin colour is dumb. No matter which way you come at it. Its dumb. Black, white, and everything in between, doesnt matter. Only skill and experience matters. That was his point.

                    But again, whether you agree with him on that, is another conversation.