Experts are warning that the Trump administration’s ongoing crackdown in Minnesota could quickly get out of hand and could even result in a second US civil war.

Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, wrote in a Wednesday column published by the Guardian that she and her colleagues at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) conducted a tabletop exercise in October 2024 that simulated potential outcomes if a US president were to carry out law enforcement operations similar to the ones being conducted by the Trump administration with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers in Minnesota.

“In that exercise, a president carried out a highly unpopular law-enforcement operation in Philadelphia and attempted to federalize the Pennsylvania’s National Guard,” Finkelstein explained. “When the governor resisted and the guard remained loyal to the state, the president deployed active-duty troops, resulting in an armed conflict between state and federal forces.”

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    Awfully peaceful cival war you’ve been having sir. Iran be wanting some of that peaceful civil war action, can you serve it up for them?

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      What the actual fuck is with this what aboutism? Dude, civil wars take many forms sometimes it’s the Russian civil war that goes on for years with numerous factions other times it’s the Swiss civil war where it lasted for 3 weeks and five days and was honestly pretty mild by war standards.

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          Because I’m a Californian Nationalist and want to see the United States reduced to the historical record, mostly because I think the feds do way more bad than good and I don’t see a path forward that doesn’t end result with the destruction of the United states.

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              Couldn’t give less of a fuck about the Cascadian region joining or not, I’m from SoCal my interests are firmly Eastward not northward. Namely removing that blight apon North America known as the Mormon corridor.

              But besides my genocidal ideations, I think the dissolving of the United States would overall be better in the long term within and without its territory. It’ll just suck liquid ass for a decade or two while shit stabilizes into a new status quo. I want to see the various cultures under the United States flourish but that ain’t happening with the continued existence of an American identity.

              But also the rabid nationalism on my side of things that has me barely caring if I’m right or not.

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      Maybe it’s been peaceful for you, however I imagine the citizens of Minneapolis would heartily agree that this feels anything but peaceful.

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        The ten thousand dead in the past month in Iran would love some.of that Minneapolis prelivedged soap opera style violence.

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          Yeah both things are wrong, you aren’t incorrect there. However it is an absolutely unfair and bad faith comparison and you know it.

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            How is it a bad comparison? If one person in a car accident gets a scraped toe, and another one gets their leg cut off; the person with the amputated leg absolutely has the right to tell the other one to quit their bitching.