• تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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    16 days ago

    The West has been obsessed with toppling the Iranian government since 1979. All their claims about concern for human rights are exposed as lies by their support for the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Palestine. It is hegemony and they can’t accept a government that is not subservient to their ambitions in the region.

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      By publicly backing the protesters the us put a target on them. They are pawns to sacrifice to get more endless war.

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      And a regime that gives gay people the death sentence and murders protestors ist any better? Iran needs a government that doesn’t suck up to the US but also treats it’s citizens well. It isn’t black and white where you either defend the current regime or support a US controlled one. You can have neither.

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        You can have neither.

        Not through the current Mossad sponsored protests.

        And a regime that gives gay people the death sentence and murders protestors ist any better?

        Better have the Mossad and its agents destroy the country and make it worse for everyone, not just homosexuals. May you be cursed with one.

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            Crazy how the only queers liberals won’t throw under the bus are the ones they want to murder from the air

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            You are literally saying “who cares about homosexuals” by using Israel as an excuse to support Hamas who throws gays off roofs. Fascist.

            Try harder, fed.

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                Fed, this shit doesn’t work anymore. Everyone with a brain can see what’s happening in Iran is a colour revolution. Y’all did the same shit in Bangladesh a year ago, and the US state department congratulated the “democracy” in Bangladesh

                A year later, fascists in Bangladesh are setting minorities on fire.

                Never trust a Westerner. They’re just repeating what their ancestors did, steal resources from the third world to enrich themselves

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            How many fucking countries does the West have to turn into permanent failed states with the excuse of “improving the conditions” before you people stop falling for it? You already destroyed Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and plenty more besides, now you need to destroy Iran too?

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        ever heard of saudi arabia?

        they too give gay people the death sentence and murder protestor and they’re allies of the united state.

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          Who said I support the US? Also whataboutism doesn’t excuse killing queer people, regardless if it is Saudi Arabia or Iran.

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            It’s not a standard, it’s the West’s double standard. It’s obvious that the Westerners absolutely do not give a shit about human rights whatsoever.

            It’s all just a cover up for stealing Iran’s resources. Because if they actually gave a shit, they wouldn’t be best pals with Saudi Arabia.

            Anything a Western county says about human rights should be immediately discarded as propaganda

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            it proves that you only give af when this double standard is applied to our political enemies, but don’t care when it’s an ally.

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              It proves you don’t give a shit about queer people and think it’s okay for Iran to kill queer people just because Saudi Arabia does it. Both countries governments suck.

              And when did I ever say I support the US or Israel even though I don’t?

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                i’m a queer that cares about queer people everywhere.

                if you truly dont support the US, then you need to stop spreading support for an attack on iran. it’s easy to see that you did so unwittingly, but that is the impact is the same intentional or not and pink washing is a favorite tool that the US & isreal uses to manufacture support for regime change.

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                  Also I never wrote that I support a US attack on Iran. Please quote me where I supposedly said that.

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                  I support the protests in Iran, not a US intervention in Iran. I support regime change in Iran since an Islamic theocracy will always victimize queer people, but without US intervention.

                  How about you stop jumping to conclusions?

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        The West is executing thousdsnds of little children by sniping them in the head. If you want to actually seriously do the moral comparison then yes Iran is better.

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          Why do you think that is a standard Iran should abide by? “But x is doing worse” is not an excuse for crimes against civilians.

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            Why are people pretending like rioting terrorists with shotguns and AK’s are now innocent civilians? The videos we’ve seen of large marches show the Iranian government was pretty lenient until the Israeli backed rioters started setting buildings and people on fire and shooting at the police.

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              How do you know the people with guns aren’t plain clothes cops trying to escalate violence and delegitimize protestors like they do in Western countries?

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                Because Iran knows they will be demonized for any violence so the likelihood that they are Mossad agents shooting at both cops and protesters to escalate the violence on both sides is infinitely higher.

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                  What if both possibilities were accurate and there were some Mossad agents among the mix because geopolitics and cops were in the mix to delegitimize protestors?

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                Westerners be like, “We, the extremely genocidal racist monsters did atrocity X. But, we are white supremacists, therefore we are better than everyone else, therefore the others MUST also be doing atrocity X, otherwise they would be superior to us which is ILLEGAL”

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        Because US/Western regime changes always, always result in society in that country progressing, right? Never gets worse for anyone especially not minority groups, that would be un-American.

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        Iran needs a government that doesn’t suck up to the US but also treats it’s citizens well.

        Indeed, and that’s not something you can force upon them from the outaide. At some point a country’s people are (at least to a degree) responsible for how their coubtry is ran and by whom.

        Outside onfluence almost never works and always exploits the country in some way.

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        Israel/US would just like to destroy Iran rather than improve it. It’s not a recipe for accepting input from them.

  • What the lemmy libs really don’t get is that even if not every protestor is Mossad, the protests are caused by illegal sanctions of the country with the express purpose of starving people to the point of desperation so that western countries and their puppet Shah can resume resource extraction and using Iran as a geopolitical pawn. They do not care about anything else, everything else westerners are bringing up are not relevant to what is going on - gay people, women’s rights, workers rights, kurdish nationalism, baloch nationalism, MeK or any other thing besides destroying the industrial capacity of the world and enforcing periphery politics on the Iranian people. No one with understanding of Iran wants another power vacuum where material conditions will definitely get worse for everyone.

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      The us is helping foment economic pain, and ptotests, and violence, to give cause for more iran war.

      It will not bring regime change here, just brutal repression, and a cause for unending war with iran and the us and israel, and the gimp too, the uk.

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      Iran’s government responded sympathetically to the bazaar protests, providing them with police protection.

      Yeah, doubt

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    Iran’s government responded sympathetically to the bazaar protests, providing them with police protection.

    Sad that they had to shoot them down afterwards. I mean there was nothing they could’ve done.

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    Good thing Putin didn’t sign a peace agreement with Ukraine. Now with Trump’s planned invasion of Iran, a future US administration will be able to install missiles near the Caspian to threaten Russia, even if NATO fails badly in Ukraine. At the very least the US will control the air space and fly through it, with Iran defeated. Let’s hope that Trump has to pay a price for this course of action.