• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    I completely disagree with that assessment. What the Republicans want is the complete domination of the American proletariat by the bourgeoisie (i.e, themselves). All the Russians want is to impede the government’s ability to project power halfway around the globe. Russia doesn’t care about American labor laws, unions, strikes, tax policy, etc, if anything, all things being equal, they’d probably prefer that the workers have more power, as that could be more disruptive to the state.

    If you’re more preoccupied the with the geopolitical influence of the state than you are with the things I mentioned, then I think your priorities are very out of order. Those are bourgeois concerns, they want to play “The Great Game” because they’ll reap the spoils and take the resources of wherever they “bring democracy” to. If their interests are in jeopardy, let them go scramble to look after them, if anything, that’s good because they’ll be more focused on that than on fucking us over. We should be looking after the interests of our own class.

    The American right is, by far, the greatest threat to the American people that exists in the world.

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      What the Republicans want is the complete domination of the American proletariat by the bourgeoisie (i.e, themselves).

      Correct

      All the Russians want is to impede the government’s ability to project power halfway around the globe.

      I don’t know about “all,” but that’s part of what they want yes.

      Russia doesn’t care about American labor laws, unions, strikes, tax policy, etc,

      Correct

      if anything, all things being equal, they’d probably prefer that the workers have more power, as that could be more disruptive to the state.

      1. This would be the most around-the-bend fashion of accomplishing the US’s destruction they could possibly seek to accomplish. It’s far easier and quicker to just put a malicious moron on the scale of Caligula in charge and let him do what he does.
      2. And, also, the most powerful America has ever been geopolitically came after decades of labor agitation to strengthen the hand of workers at the table and give them a system they could depend on and believe in. I don’t think even if they could fix the imbalances of American power that they would want to, because the inequalities within our system are a big factor in what’s destroying us right now.

      If you’re more preoccupied the with the geopolitical influence of the state than you are with the things I mentioned, then I think your priorities are very out of order.

      The guy Russia picked is destroying workers’ rights, immigrants’ safety, and making the systems of justice in the United States massively worse than the already bad state that they were in. The things you mentioned are my priority, which is why I’m unhappy about Russia helping to fuck them up for reasons of geopolitical influence of the state.

      The American right is, by far, the greatest threat to the American people that exists in the world.

      Also the greatest threat to the rest of the world. Which is why it’s bad that Russia is friends with them and helping to get it done.

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        The guy Russia picked is destroying workers’ rights

        Yeah, all I said was “all else being equal.” If one side is more disruptive or more friendly towards Russia, they’d prefer that side regardless of other domestic policies. They are not out friends.

        However, the guy they picked is also the guy the right picked, and his most destructive and harmful policies are to appease the right and to advance his own interests and those of his class.

        Bush, as far as I’m aware, had no ties to Russia. Acting on his own initiative, he gave tax cuts to the wealthy, he created an illegal system of mass surveillance, he started multiple wars of aggression to send ordinary people to kill and die, he abducted people to black sites to be tortured, he transformed the country and greatly reduced any sense of civil liberty or privacy that we used to have. Perhaps whoever the Republicans nominate after Trump will not have ties to Russia, but either way, they will continue this project of hollowing out our rights and advancing bourgeois interests.

        Also the greatest threat to the rest of the world. Which is why it’s bad that Russia is friends with them and helping to get it done.

        Agreed.