I don’t think Congress has declared war since Vietnam. Everything since has been at the presidents whim and been termed a conflict, police action or some other euphemism.
It’s the “Use of Military Force”, as the previous commenter pointed out, a euphemism. Much the same how they used to call torture “enhanced interrogation”.
You know what it means, pretending that the democrats are somewhat less fascists than the republicans while in fact they are like having to choose for someone to pee in your ear or shit on your mouth. Right, democrats paint LGBT flags on the missiles they drop on third world shit holes, they must care then.
The War Powers Act of 1973 only requires the president to notify congress within 48 hours. The president only needs authorization it troops are deployed for longer than 60 days.
The US drone strikes wherever it feels like, whenever it feels like. In fact, this was reaffirmed in one of the wiki pages you link in another comment:
The authorization granted the president the authority to use all “necessary and appropriate force” against those whom he determined “planned, authorized, committed or aided” the September 11 attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups.
Note that no specific country is mentioned in that, meaning that it gave the president complete, unilateral authority to determine which countries fell into that category and how to respond.
Business Insider has reported that the AUMF has been used to allow military deployment in Afghanistan, the Philippines, Georgia, Yemen, Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Iraq, and Somalia. The 2001 AUMF has enabled the US president to unilaterally launch military operations across the world without any congressional oversight or transparency for more than two decades. Between 2018 and 2020 alone, US forces initiated what it labelled “counter-terror” activities in 85 countries. Of these, the 2001 AUMF has been used to launch classified military campaigns in at least 22 countries.
Even now, all Trump would have to do is say he determined that Venezuela at one point “harbored” someone connected to 9/11, there could even be truth to it! If someone tangentially connected at some point might possibly have passed through Venezuela without the government’s knowledge, that’s enough (not that we would even be told the reason). This insanity became the law of the land over 20 years ago, with near-unanimous bipartisan support, and it has survived multiple democratic presidents. Biden invoked it regarding Somalia as recently as 2021.
Welcome to the paying attention club, glad you could join us, but this is absolutely not new.
Sure, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine isn’t a war. It’s just a Special Military Operation, right? If we just stop calling it war, there won’t be any war! Guys, we’ve solved world peace!
That depends on whether you are using the colloquial and international law definition, or the US formal definition. It’s only a war if Congress declares it, else it’s just a sparkling police action.
Except this isn’t a war, congress hasn’t
declaredauthorized it. This headline is shit and normalizing trump going full fucking hitler.I don’t think Congress has declared war since Vietnam. Everything since has been at the presidents whim and been termed a conflict, police action or some other euphemism.
Since World War II, actually.
You’re right, congress hasn’t authorized it:
It’s the “Use of Military Force”, as the previous commenter pointed out, a euphemism. Much the same how they used to call torture “enhanced interrogation”.
“If we don’t label it, it’s not what it is!”
That’s not the point. He is officially a dictator by doing this.
By that logic every president since Roosevelt was a dictator.
Officially? Officiated by who? Obama was also officially a dictator then?
I think they want Trump to be aberrational and are trying to work backward from there. Just BlueMaga things.
LMAO, blue maga? Dude, you’re comment is insane. What does that even mean?
You know what it means, pretending that the democrats are somewhat less fascists than the republicans while in fact they are like having to choose for someone to pee in your ear or shit on your mouth. Right, democrats paint LGBT flags on the missiles they drop on third world shit holes, they must care then.
The War Powers Act of 1973 only requires the president to notify congress within 48 hours. The president only needs authorization it troops are deployed for longer than 60 days.
The US drone strikes wherever it feels like, whenever it feels like. In fact, this was reaffirmed in one of the wiki pages you link in another comment:
Note that no specific country is mentioned in that, meaning that it gave the president complete, unilateral authority to determine which countries fell into that category and how to respond.
Even now, all Trump would have to do is say he determined that Venezuela at one point “harbored” someone connected to 9/11, there could even be truth to it! If someone tangentially connected at some point might possibly have passed through Venezuela without the government’s knowledge, that’s enough (not that we would even be told the reason). This insanity became the law of the land over 20 years ago, with near-unanimous bipartisan support, and it has survived multiple democratic presidents. Biden invoked it regarding Somalia as recently as 2021.
Welcome to the paying attention club, glad you could join us, but this is absolutely not new.
Fair enough and my bad, I misread your comment.
Captain America, things ain’t like they used to be like before you was froze.
Sure, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine isn’t a war. It’s just a Special Military Operation, right? If we just stop calling it war, there won’t be any war! Guys, we’ve solved world peace!
FIFA will be so happy
You guys are right on time. I’m proud that you can only downvote me and your arguments are crap.
War is determined by actions, not by Congress.
That being said, this isn’t war yet.
That depends on whether you are using the colloquial and international law definition, or the US formal definition. It’s only a war if Congress declares it, else it’s just a sparkling police action.
Sparklingspecial military operation.Congress in the US has to authorize war.
You should be looking at the dictionary, not Wikipedia for the definition of war.
Anyway, it’s not like Trump obeys laws anyway, so what Congress authorizes or not will probably not even come into play.
What difference does that make?
“The Blitzkrieg of Poland wasn’t a war because the German parliament didn’t approve.”
war powers act needs to go.
To rest of the world the US has started a war.
In the US congress is to embarrassed to admit they allowed him to do so. Rather then impeaching and hanging the little fucker.