This one freaks me out. Rich people living long lives, long enough to build cults around them that the mortal poor will revere even more than they do now
Let’s all grow old get sick and die so that dictators can’t stay in power.
Doesn’t seem to work perfectly well IMO.
Remember, longevity won’t mean living forever or be immune against disease and accidents. Also if we would live longer laybe we’d have more time to figure things out and take care of what we got.
Death is the great equalizer, despots leave behind power vacuums to be filled by their many illegitimate children or other parties for vying for power. Good to know that the maximum extent of any of these reigns is 80 years.
As for us living long enough to figure things out, I wonder instead if we simply just retreat more and more into our creature comforts and echo chambers
Old enough to see powerful rich old men unwilling to pass on control onto anyone else, both personally and in the public sphere.
Medical progress that trickles down to the masses (e.g. washing your hands after delivering a baby) is a net benefit to all. We have however seen the limits of trickle down theory, and are currently witnessing the dismantling of large public medical and scientific resources (NIH in particular was a longstanding pillar) at a speed and scale never quite done before, whilst pharmaceutical companies are swallowing up the talent pool.
Future medical advances genuinely might happen behind closed doors in the future, instead of under the eye of public discourse.
All the longevity research is very public as it is today, and if not both the USA and most European countries becomes dictatorships (and if it do, young or old it will be the same), I don’t see that change.
They figured out a remedy for huntingtons disease not long ago, and the covid mRna vaccine was incredible science.
There’s a rational argument for making live extension universal, namely that so long as you increase healthspan you’ve essentially delayed retirement by X years meaning you get a higher working to retirement ratio out of each worker. Unfortunately the people in charge are not rational and would probably support poisoning the drinking water to make themselves comparatively longer lived by ensuring no one else lives past 60 if they thought they could get away with it.
This one freaks me out. Rich people living long lives, long enough to build cults around them that the mortal poor will revere even more than they do now
For me it’s the opposite that freaks me out:
Let’s all grow old get sick and die so that dictators can’t stay in power.
Doesn’t seem to work perfectly well IMO.
Remember, longevity won’t mean living forever or be immune against disease and accidents. Also if we would live longer laybe we’d have more time to figure things out and take care of what we got.
Death is the great equalizer, despots leave behind power vacuums to be filled by their many illegitimate children or other parties for vying for power. Good to know that the maximum extent of any of these reigns is 80 years.
As for us living long enough to figure things out, I wonder instead if we simply just retreat more and more into our creature comforts and echo chambers
Death isn’t a great equaliser, it’s just pain for decades and then death. How old are you 😅?
In the same vein, should we stop all medical help to speed up this process of yours 😉 ?
Kidding a bit, we’ll see what happens if/when it does I guess.
Old enough to see powerful rich old men unwilling to pass on control onto anyone else, both personally and in the public sphere.
Medical progress that trickles down to the masses (e.g. washing your hands after delivering a baby) is a net benefit to all. We have however seen the limits of trickle down theory, and are currently witnessing the dismantling of large public medical and scientific resources (NIH in particular was a longstanding pillar) at a speed and scale never quite done before, whilst pharmaceutical companies are swallowing up the talent pool.
Future medical advances genuinely might happen behind closed doors in the future, instead of under the eye of public discourse.
All the longevity research is very public as it is today, and if not both the USA and most European countries becomes dictatorships (and if it do, young or old it will be the same), I don’t see that change.
They figured out a remedy for huntingtons disease not long ago, and the covid mRna vaccine was incredible science.
I’m on the optimistic side here.
There’s a rational argument for making live extension universal, namely that so long as you increase healthspan you’ve essentially delayed retirement by X years meaning you get a higher working to retirement ratio out of each worker. Unfortunately the people in charge are not rational and would probably support poisoning the drinking water to make themselves comparatively longer lived by ensuring no one else lives past 60 if they thought they could get away with it.
For real