if my only choice is evil i will always automatically choose less evil. its really not even a choice.
if we really care about this shit, we would be pushing grass-roots ranked-choice voting to incur actual 3rd parties that matter. but we arent. so less evil it is. you can choose more evil if that makes you feel better, but you should know youre fucking everyone else over.
Or you can choose something else entirely and not support a genocide. Turns out, if enough people do this, there’s even a small chance they might win. There’s even a chance that if they don’t win that this will push or even terrorize one of the major parties into moving to your position. But perhaps your conscience allows you to support a genocide. I certainly don’t have the stomach for that though.
i live in the US where my choice is evil or more evil.
youre telling me to choose more evil
choosing more evil at home might make you feel better about foreign policy, you are voting against your own ability to make this choice in the future. you are making your home life worse thinking you are helping people abroad, but in the long run you are not only helping evil at home, you are not going to help those abroad as the US is more than the president. it is silly to pretend trump will do anything but help russia and israel.
again, you only have 2 choices evil or more evil. pick one.
Does the US not permit Write-In candidates or third parties? Crazy, I could have sworn they did. A miniscule, even infinitesimal chance of winning by voting for a not evil candidate sounds more morally palatable to me than voting for a war criminal. You do you though, I’m quite certain your conscience can handle it.
yes and no. depends on the state, but reality dictates in our current system and with the current candidates every vote for 3rd party will be a tacit vote for trump.
dont vote? thats a vote for trump. vote for a 3rd party? thats a vote for trump.
until we have an actual system that supports 3rd parties we have no choice. because the vote for trump/republicans leads to a system with less parties than 2, not more.
my conscience says i want more parties. my conscience says ‘vote less evil not more’.
That’s some terrible logic right there.Fascism also goes “hand in hand” with getting the trains to run on time.
Treaties and allies are complicated. And Israel has been a long ally to the US. Breaking that relationship potentially removes a US presence in the middle east and impacts our intelligence gathering capabilities. Something that could have a lasting impact on US security.
I’m not defending Israel. But what Israel is doing is being done by Israel.
Anglo-Saxon pigs are locking up any protestors who look like me on trumped up federal RICO charges. That’s when they’re not leaving us on the pavement in chalk outlines because they “feared for their lives”. And ain’t it the funniest thing-- the Jan 6th rioters didn’t get handled half as direly. Fascism was always here, you suburbanite fuck; it just hasn’t come to your uniformly-manicured gated. Yet. I look forward to when it does.
Or here me out, if the current president is aiding in one genocide, prevening another war from ending, and has done absolutly nothing to better my material conditions or the material conditions of my fellows in the working class, and contenues the genocide in cuba. Every campain promise has been broken, they just do not get my vote at all. Like in what world would you say that he earned your vote to give him a second term
perfect! just as putin wants. vote your conscience, vote fascism
If the choices are fascism or moderate fascism, maybe try offering something better than fascism?
if my only choice is evil i will always automatically choose less evil. its really not even a choice.
if we really care about this shit, we would be pushing grass-roots ranked-choice voting to incur actual 3rd parties that matter. but we arent. so less evil it is. you can choose more evil if that makes you feel better, but you should know youre fucking everyone else over.
Collaborator
Or you can choose something else entirely and not support a genocide. Turns out, if enough people do this, there’s even a small chance they might win. There’s even a chance that if they don’t win that this will push or even terrorize one of the major parties into moving to your position. But perhaps your conscience allows you to support a genocide. I certainly don’t have the stomach for that though.
Edit: A word
i live in the US where my choice is evil or more evil.
youre telling me to choose more evil
choosing more evil at home might make you feel better about foreign policy, you are voting against your own ability to make this choice in the future. you are making your home life worse thinking you are helping people abroad, but in the long run you are not only helping evil at home, you are not going to help those abroad as the US is more than the president. it is silly to pretend trump will do anything but help russia and israel.
again, you only have 2 choices evil or more evil. pick one.
The immortal words of Comrade Aaron Bushnell
Does the US not permit Write-In candidates or third parties? Crazy, I could have sworn they did. A miniscule, even infinitesimal chance of winning by voting for a not evil candidate sounds more morally palatable to me than voting for a war criminal. You do you though, I’m quite certain your conscience can handle it.
yes and no. depends on the state, but reality dictates in our current system and with the current candidates every vote for 3rd party will be a tacit vote for trump.
dont vote? thats a vote for trump. vote for a 3rd party? thats a vote for trump.
until we have an actual system that supports 3rd parties we have no choice. because the vote for trump/republicans leads to a system with less parties than 2, not more.
my conscience says i want more parties. my conscience says ‘vote less evil not more’.
Third party votes being for Trump is only correct if you assume libertarian votes are for Biden.
You think this administration is fascist?
I think fascism and support for a genocide tend to go hand in hand, so maybe I’m just getting there by working backwards.
That’s some terrible logic right there.Fascism also goes “hand in hand” with getting the trains to run on time.
Treaties and allies are complicated. And Israel has been a long ally to the US. Breaking that relationship potentially removes a US presence in the middle east and impacts our intelligence gathering capabilities. Something that could have a lasting impact on US security.
I’m not defending Israel. But what Israel is doing is being done by Israel.
But you’re gonna power right on through that, aren’t you?
What Israel is doing is only possible because of US enthusiastic support.
Oh shut the fuck up you genocidal collaborator
Anglo-Saxon pigs are locking up any protestors who look like me on trumped up federal RICO charges. That’s when they’re not leaving us on the pavement in chalk outlines because they “feared for their lives”. And ain’t it the funniest thing-- the Jan 6th rioters didn’t get handled half as direly. Fascism was always here, you suburbanite fuck; it just hasn’t come to your uniformly-manicured gated. Yet. I look forward to when it does.
Primary vote is when you vote your conscience, general is when you hold your nose and do what needs to be done.
This is a good time to make your voice heard and pressure the current administration.
Or here me out, if the current president is aiding in one genocide, prevening another war from ending, and has done absolutly nothing to better my material conditions or the material conditions of my fellows in the working class, and contenues the genocide in cuba. Every campain promise has been broken, they just do not get my vote at all. Like in what world would you say that he earned your vote to give him a second term
There’s no point on Biden’s planks where his policies align with my views. Why would I vote for someone who 0% represents me?