The list is genuinely stupid and lacks any nuance. See my other comments in this thread but this is sort of thing is where people who are anti-AI are shooting themselves in the foot and making the general public write off any genuine criticism as ridiculous.
Most of those projects allow AI to be used in the dev process and that’s it. That list includes projects that just document that things like AI line completion and similar can be used but code is still reviewed by at least one skilled human maintainer
The list combines those projects in with projects that are entirely AI written (vibe coded in the actual original sense) which just muddies the water on what’s actually problematic and not
just another year bro, trust me just another year and ai will do everything! yes i know i said this last year and the year before but this time it’s for real bro!
unless the ai companies can magically solve the poor code quality, the unethical training data, the environmental impacts, the deskilling of developers, and the strong dependency on themselves for your coding, all this in a year, allow me to doubt you.
I mean no I don’t believe they’ll do everything but compared to last year AI coding has made leaps and its kind of dumb to imagine technology will not continue to do so.
1 year ago vibe coding was not good enough to make it into code bases.
unless the ai companies can magically solve the poor code quality, the unethical training data, the environmental impacts, the deskilling of developers, and the strong dependency on themselves for your coding, all this in a year, allow me to doubt you.
Im not some full on AI stan, so i share the same concerns you do on ethics and environmental impact. However I dont see how either of those matter in relation to code quality.
Code quality will is basically already good enough to be used mainstream, so I don’t know how you expect it to get worse. But sure feel free to revisit this in a year.
I mean no I don’t believe they’ll do everything but compared to last year AI coding has made leaps and its kind of dumb to imagine technology will not continue to do so.
People have been consistently saying this for over a year at this point and it’s still the same garbage results as always. Just look at the recent Meta and Amazon issues with it producing nonsense and people just taking it at face value for some reason.
The only thing it’s gotten better at is making people rely on it.
vlc and mpv? python?? the mesa drivers??? LINUX???
oh we’re so fucked
The list is genuinely stupid and lacks any nuance. See my other comments in this thread but this is sort of thing is where people who are anti-AI are shooting themselves in the foot and making the general public write off any genuine criticism as ridiculous.
Most of those projects allow AI to be used in the dev process and that’s it. That list includes projects that just document that things like AI line completion and similar can be used but code is still reviewed by at least one skilled human maintainer
The list combines those projects in with projects that are entirely AI written (vibe coded in the actual original sense) which just muddies the water on what’s actually problematic and not
Or people should take it as a slap of reality that AI has gotten good enough to code because actual developers are using it.
Give it another year and this won’t even be a discussion anymore as every programmer will be using assisted coding in some manner.
just another year bro, trust me just another year and ai will do everything! yes i know i said this last year and the year before but this time it’s for real bro!
unless the ai companies can magically solve the poor code quality, the unethical training data, the environmental impacts, the deskilling of developers, and the strong dependency on themselves for your coding, all this in a year, allow me to doubt you.
I mean no I don’t believe they’ll do everything but compared to last year AI coding has made leaps and its kind of dumb to imagine technology will not continue to do so.
1 year ago vibe coding was not good enough to make it into code bases.
Im not some full on AI stan, so i share the same concerns you do on ethics and environmental impact. However I dont see how either of those matter in relation to code quality.
Code quality will is basically already good enough to be used mainstream, so I don’t know how you expect it to get worse. But sure feel free to revisit this in a year.
People have been consistently saying this for over a year at this point and it’s still the same garbage results as always. Just look at the recent Meta and Amazon issues with it producing nonsense and people just taking it at face value for some reason.
The only thing it’s gotten better at is making people rely on it.
well, my point is also partly that all developers won’t disregard all the concerns just because the code quality is good enough
and the ones that do, they and their projects should be shunned. hence the list.
The code quality is fine with the right prompts and guardrails, and companies don’t care about the other stuff.
This list and the reaction to the list is so funny to me.
Programmers are so fucked. Cant wait for the many, many smug idiots of the last 10-15 years struggle to find work.
And its not like many of them have the social skills to work the “unskilled” labor jobs so many of them deride.
Holy shit, my sides.
“Haha, people are going to struggle to eat and house themselves and probably die. Haha, my sides!”
Psychopath.
Time to start learning how to “prompt engineer” lmao
Well, speaking of social skills, you’ve entirely missed my point.