The Ken Starr report that lead to Clinton’s impeachment begs to differ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starr_Report

Many of the details reveal highly personal information; many are sexually explicit…Because Starr’s office allegedly leaked portions to press about sexual details that were mentioned in his report, he was criticized for using the scandal as a political maneuver and was charged for violating legal ethics by presenting information irrelevant to an investigation as evidence of legal wrongdoing.

That report is ten times the size of the 9-11 report btw.

Reading the charges now is hilarious considering Trump is guilty of the same hundreds, possibly thousands of times over.

It’s his vessel because he paid for it. That’s how money works. There’s no other pronoun that is appropriate.

Here’s the rest of the article that completely unwinds how far you want to stretch that term:

“His” yacht made through collaboration:

“Not only have we designed a very unusual yacht that leans into Oceanco’s strengths of innovation and design, but the team has also been willing to collaborate with us on evolving the process.”

“His” yacht made to have the least environmental impact from noise or oil polution (Diesel hybrid electric engine):

Huge efforts were made to reduce noise and vibration, thereby creating a pleasant onboard environment. The hybrid diesel-electric propulsion system is whisper-quiet, and the engine room is positioned further forward to reduce noise. The built-in battery bank also allows for silent nighttime operation.

“His” yacht made to have little maintenance requirements so the crew can focus on science and research:

Leviathan is also incredibly low-maintenance. The off-white exterior and synthetic handrails require less cleaning, for example. That means the crew can spend less time on routine maintenance and more time on more important tasks. “We adopted a crew-centric approach that really digs into how Leviathan is operated and maintained,” explains Newell.

“His” thoughts on “His” yacht being used to better the scientific community instead of just him.

“Yachts have great potential to serve as platforms for scientific research,” adds Newell. “It’s about recognizing that you’re part of a broader community and ensuring the yacht’s presence adds value to the communities around it.”

How about you ask yourself how many scientists and engineers HE paid to have a job to work on this?

How about you ask how much he pays their research salaries still and provided them a better vessel to do their job on than anyone else?

Why do you insist that you know how to better spend his money when it’s already going to people that need it for a cause that’s needed?

Just because you want to claim his money could be used better doesn’t mean it currently isn’t being used well.

You just see a yacht and think the worse. Worlds far less black and white.

Like the 3000 scientists, engineers, and designers that helped him build that yacht for research?

That collaboration started with the design and build. Newell joined forces with YTMC, Y.CO, the Oceanco Design team, Lateral Naval Architects, Mark Berryman Design, and thousands of designers, engineers, and other experts to bring his dream vessel to fruition. The names of the nearly 3,000 contributors are listed near the main staircase, in fact. “It is this level of collaboration that sets Leviathan apart from anything we’ve built before,” Oceanco CEO Marcel Onkenhout said in a statement.

Is there more efficient ways to spend this money on research? Sure. But don’t equate this effort as meaningless just because it’s not perfect. It’s a great place to be a researcher, but it’s still for research.

Your assumption all his yachts were for pleasure has already been proven wrong. Now you’re just moving the goal posts.

As I said, he’s the second largest doner to marine research on the entire planet, and the burden of proof for proving his yachts are ALL for personal use is something you’ve never provided, only assumed.

I’ve proved 1/3 were for scientific research. I’m not going to do the other 2/3 just for you to ignore and move the goal posts elsewhere.

Prove your point, and I’ll believe it.

Until then, he’s still a billionaire instead of the trillionaire he could be, so I’m not going to think poorly of him just because he’s not fitting some arbitrary number of currency tied to his worth that magically makes you think he’s moral.

Instead I will judge him based on his actions. The ones that I have detailed have unquestionably made the world a better place for many more people than him.

How about you actually tell me something he’s done wrong that’s worth your judgement, instead of basing it entirely on yachts you won’t research?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will

Here’s a beautifully shot movie made by the female director Leni Riefenstahl.

It’s all about Hitler and how the Nazis are great.

There is no equivalent in economics.

Now look at Tiktok. Twitter. Conservative news. All now readily full of actual fascist propaganda.

There is no equivalent in economics.

There are, unquestionably, many more threatening things in the world promoting Fascism that are not and have no ties to Economics.

Economics is literally just the study of currency and trade, and how those two interact over time. There is nothing inherently evil about it. It can just be used to describe how evil fascists love currency and how they pursue controlling trade.

Just because the Gospel of Judas was written in ancient Hebrew doesn’t mean ancient Hebrew is unchristian or evil. It’s just the language that documented unchristian ideas. The same is true about economics. It can absolutley describe how fascists control their people through the exploitation of currency and trade, but it literally has nothing to do with that. It’s just a scientific way to talk about it.

If you want to tell me that Economics is primarily geared towards fascism, prove it. Show me the papers. Show me the authors. They don’t exist. Because it’s not fascist.

Is measuring how many glass beads can be traded for water in Uganda fascist?

Is measuring how much a carbon tax prevents corporations from polluting fascist?

Is measuring unemployment fascist?

Economics is just a tool. It is, in no way fascist. It’s like saying that Hindus are fascist for having right facing swastikas. Swastikas have meant good luck in their culture for millenia more than it’s meant anything in fascism. And likewise economics has been measuring things like the quality of copper decreasing under authoritarian rule for far longer than fascism has existed.

It’s just a form of quantifying information related to trade and currency. That’s it.

Trade and currency can and do exist across every human culture. Just because the exploitation of currency and trade is a big deal in fascism doesn’t mean the tools that measure that are fascist. They are just tools.

So if you ignore how they can be used for good, fascists can and will use them against you. Just like they use movies and social media against you. Just like they use any tool against you. That does not make the tool fascist. Just the person wielding it.

Also, you are likely unintentionally conflating neo-classical economics as the only form of economics. That’s one model out of thousands that prioritizes efficiency over things like public Ultility. And those are the only authors you quoted.

Just because that model exists, doesn’t mean it’s the correct one that every society should live by. It’s just a single model developed to poorly measure and make decisions in a capitalist society. Like all other economic models before it, it will be replaced by something better. And very much already is.

So has math. Engineering. Art. And literally everything else. Economics is not something exclusively used for fascism.

Economics is basically just the study and measurement of graphs and how fast they are going up or down.

That is not something inherently evil, nor is it psuedo science. I find it WILD that people now so poorly understand economics they thinks it’s the devil.

This isn’t the dark ages. Reading a book isn’t going to summon fascism. Go read an econ book, and you’ll quickly learn that’s the case.

Otherwise, point to the literature you don’t like rather than assuming it ALL needs to be thrown out. That kind of thinking is the path all censorship in the world is now coming down. Don’t be someone making that path easier to travel.

What have I said that isn’t true?

https://robbreport.com/motors/marine/billionaire-gabe-newell-oceanco-gigayacht-leviathan-1237360429/

The 364-foot Leviathan was designed for billionaire gaming visionary Gabe Newell, who acquired the Dutch shipyard this past April.

Leviathan is the latest addition to Newell’s Inkfish fleet and will be used to further scientific research in the marine sector. Occupying the place of the standard beach club is a fully equipped dive center, laboratory, and a hospital. There’s even a 3-D printing workshop where the crew can create spare or replacement parts. “Yachts have great potential to serve as platforms for scientific research,” adds Newell. “It’s about recognizing that you’re part of a broader community and ensuring the yacht’s presence adds value to the communities around it.”

You are just continuing to make assumptions based entirely on the assets he owns instead of his behaviour.

Something I keep pointing out, and is why I have also been responding.

I am completely on your side and feel that anyone with over a billion is an ethical and moral burden. However, I’m also wise enough to recognize that as a goal to strive towards not a destination to judge against. So I’m not going to chastise those actively working towards that goal, even if they are a billionaire.

I see granting access for anyone to make games for Steam as a good cause.

The opportunity cost for what profit could be made by closing that is multitudes of yachts worth.

Just because you do not value this as a good cause does not mean it is not.

Does Gabe have more yachts than are needed? Yes. But again, you can’t just say he’s greedy because he has them. That’s being incredibly biased.

Instead, how about you tell me what actions of his has made him greedy that don’t involve his assets?

I can name hundreds of ways Musk should be drawn and quartered based on his actions that have nothing to do with his wealth, but rather his actual documented choices.

What choices / actions / or anything of actual greed has Gabe done that you can point to?

It’s like saying anything with a swastika on it is for Nazis without realizing Hindus have been using a right oriented Swastika to represent good fortune for hundreds of years.

Gabe Newall has done the following with his 11 Billion fortune:

• Co-founded “The Heart of Racing” car racing team that raises money for Children’s charity.

• Donates heavily to the Seattle Children’s Hospital and several others around the world.

• Founded Foundry10, a non profit education company that helps neuro divergent kids learn through new methods of education

• Started InkFish to expand the scientific study of our oceans and is now the second highest individual donor towards marine research on the planet.

https://80.lv/articles/gabe-newell-reportedly-plans-to-invest-usd300-million-to-marine-research

That’s why he has those yachts.

Same reason Hindus have their swastikas.

Their actions speak louder than the symbols they use suggest. Even when those symbols are Yachts.

He has 11 Billion. Everyone else even close to his level of market control has several magnitudes more. Why does he have so little when he owns a virtual monopoly on digital distribution?

Because he’s not in it for maximizing his bank account.

The dispicableness of billionaires is measured by their actions not their worth. And despite being of high worth, Gabes actions are unquestionably not greedy. He’s doing almost everything he can to minimize his wealth in favor of equality to access Steam as a game dev.

If he wanted to, he could charge far more than $100 to develop for them, and buy several more yachts.

But he hasn’t.

Which makes his platform more popular. And in turn brings him even more cash to buy more yachts.

His yachts aren’t indicative of his greed, but his benevolence in the face of it.

Show me a single other company the size of Valve that has chosen to forgo profit over access to something like Steam to make money yourself. That’s basically non existent in the year 2025 aside from Valve. I’m not going to judge Gabe as a bad person for profiting from that. He could be profiting much much more and is choosing access for nearly everyone else instead.

That’s why it’s past tense “IPOd” He’s now in the maximizing profits phase. Which is replacing people with bots and bad actors that all guide advertisements.

I agree with this sentiment, but given a choice, I believe Gabe would make the right one and spend his wealth to lose billionaire status.

His supposed exploitation was not by his own design, but rather by luck - the sheer benefit of riding a privately owned and benevelontly steered surfboard on top of the waves of a collapsing capitalist society.

Basically, there’s a meme about all other companies shooting themselves in the foot so Gabe always benefits, and part of that is in the way those companies fucked and manipulated their control of capital and markets. Gabe benefits just by being one of the few that can afford to participate in that system others rigged.

So he simply rigs it the least, and wins by providing the platform with the least greedy problems. Far far less than he could given his position.

IMHO, despite all controversies, Steams cut of profits from providing equal access to game visibility despite creator, nationality, background, etc, has legitimately opened the door for nearly anyone to be successful on their platform. For all the tools and services they provide, they ask for literally the smallest cut compared to any other publishing platform.

Gabe could destroy that to his benefit on a whim, and instead he over designs it to make it possible for nearly anyone to try game dev if they do the work needed to develop for them.

To hold so much capital simply for providing some form of equality to access the same in a system that overwhelming benefits others with more resources is in no way greedy imo. It’s being the person with the only fire extinguisher who knows how to use it in a burning building: popular.

Reddit banned my indie game studio account because my coworker logged in on the same computer I was using to comment on our latest trailer.

They said I was switching accounts to boost my post. Then banned my company account, and all the accounts for all my employees.

The more you look into Reddits community rules, the more generic they become so they can make up any excuse to ban you.

There’s a currency subreddit that also banned an alt I created years ago for me saying the word “crypto” despite that not at all being listed in their rules. I asked a mod why, and his response was that it was considered “vulgar” language.

So yeah. Reddit will just ban you for any reason, even if you are an active community member or contributer. The site will be unusable in 5 years as the CEO will have IPOd it for max profit and left by then.

I am not white washing Bush in any way by pointing out the much more sever things Trump has done.

As an American, I completely agree you should work to limit the damage our country can do to the rest of the world. The people here no longer control it. It is controlled by billionaires, and the corrupt millionaires they purchased in our government. What our oligarchy has done to control social media to obtain election results can and has easily spread elsewhere.

It’s a problem we’re certainly working to fix from the inside. And certainly have enough guns to do so. But it’s going to take a bit.

Bush wasn’t bad enough to use them. But people starving to death after their SNAP benefits lapse unquestionably will.

Last time this happened, just before the great depression, the starving dragged our corrupt leaders and capitalists into the street and beat them mercilessly. We ended up getting FDR who enacted the new deal, and made our country have the economic boom it did as started by WW2.

What we have now is a bunch of greedy oligarchs that have re-captured thar economic strength for themselves and once again will be beaten mercilessly once people start starving again. One just recently got executed, and his murderer will likely go free due to police negligence, I should remind you

Not salt you are tasting, friend. That’s your own premature ejaculation from intentionally being an idiot.

So you can’t explain or define what genius is, yet judge anyone as an idiot who asks for that context?

Genius and brilliant are synonyms btw. Something pretty obvious.

So unless you want to explain the difference between those two terms, they mean the same thing.

Being pedantic about that doesn’t make you right. It very much implies the opposite. You just look like someone that ate billionaire PR bait, and forgot what reality tastes like.

You are not saving face by refusing to go into the details, you just look like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Something you could easily disprove if you did. Because Geniuses can go into those details. Idiots can only pretend.

So makes sense why you look up to Musk so much. You can only pretend to be smart like him.

Maybe don’t be an onion then?

I reject your claim Musk is a genius.

Prove it to me.

You read two of his biographies, so you should know. (Unless those were both fanfiction he paid someone to write about him.)

Musk has indeed been in close proximity to several large companies and their origins.

But genius is not something achievable through osmosis.

What has he, as a person, done with any skill, to suggest he’s a genius? Aside from osmosis.

Let me drop some really basic logical observations your argument will need to overcome to be truthful:

He’s not a productive man:

• As evidenced by his near average of 100 tweets a day. Confirmed by AI. Which is close to 2 hours a day tweeting, not doing anything of value or skill.
• As also evidenced by his character in Path of Exile, one played in hardcore mode, with the best gear available, that would require nearly 10 hours a day of play to achieve.

There is no difference between this behaviour and a jobless NEET or internet troll. They get shit on for this bevavioir due to how unproductive it is.

It’s just as unproductive when Musk does it.

He’s not an accountable father:

• As evidenced hy his 14 children with 4 different women.

This is literally the punchline of a Jeff Foxworthy “You might be a Redneck if…” Joke.

It’s just as unaccountable of Musk to have this many kids with this many people. He would need to spend a lot of time with each to raise them well, and instead he’s playing video games and tweeting almost all day.

Logically, if Musk actually wanted to go to Mars, it would be a 3 step process:

1. Rocket a person to Mars
2. Terraform and settle Mars
3. Migrate to Mars.

He’s focused on 1, and telling you it’s for the good of Humanity.

But if instead he focused on step 2, he would be fighting climate change right now while developing the tech needed to Terraform Mars, as they are the same tech. That’s what a genius would do.

Instead he’s trying to replace NASA with Space X because money.

He doesn’t use his money to improve society. He just uses it to improve himself while lying to you that it’s for the greater good.

It’s not. And it’s never been.

As evidenced by his Hyper loop being a lie to convince legislators in California to cancel plans for a high speed rail. Something California would now benefit from if not for his interference.

All Musk does with his money is use it to buy PR and good will so he can continue to be someone that uses Twitter and play games all day instead of being a good dad. That’s not genius. That’s greed and stupidity.

He could, even now, solve the world’s problems with his wealth. He literally asked for a plan to solve world hunger, and when presented with one that could have done it for like 8 Billion a year, he refused. Then purchased Twitter for 5 times that amount. Because he wanted to be popular.

Yet solving Wolrd hunger would make him worshipped by the people he fed. More popular than anyone. Families would praise his name. And communities would erect statues for him. This is something he certainly wants, yet his way of achieving that goal is to spend even more than 8 billion on PR to convince you he’s a genius.

That’s not very genius like behavior. It’s still just stupid and greedy.

Imagine, for a moment, you’re a Trillionaire. What would you do with that money? Solve the world’s problems? Help your family? Help your friends? That’s what 90% 9f people say when asked.

And Musk does none of that. Just plays games, shit posts on the internet, and convinces you through biographies and large well paid PR teams that he knows what he’s doing and should be worshipped.

His wealth, unquestionably, would be better used if it was in the hands of thousands instead of his. He wants you to think he deserves it, that he’s a genius. When the most casual look at his approaches to problems immediately reveals he’s not. He just a wad of unspent money that wants to use it to take credit for other people’s work instead of fixing the planet.

Time to prove why you think that makes him a genius.

I’ve worked for him by the way. He’s not a genius. He just has good PR to make you think he is.

Agreed. He certainly did. But expanding the executive branch to control congress to take over several Independant institutions like the FCC and SEC fits the literal definition of Tyranny as it changes the actual shape of our government, permanantly, by the whims of a single man.

Bush is bad. But he’s not Trump bad. After Bush there was still elections to win. After Trump there might not be. (if we are to take January 6th as an example of what happened last time he lost.)

It definitley has. But they’re only programmed to support the things they hear will help them while they are already being helped. So once the help stops coming, and they realized WHO stopped it from coming, the GOP will no longer be able to piss on their face while telling them it’s raining. They no longer have a house to protect them from that piss, let alone a job or Healthcare.

The reason the GOP won is because they’ve been using social media and cable news to create a false reality for the past 2 decades.

One where intelligence is bad, and everything America stood for is woke. In this reality democrats and liberals are the defacto bad guys keeping America from winning. Winning what? Whatever game this narrative designed to be played by two political teams. The war on drugs. The war on terror. The war on DEI. All bullshit. All to distract from the reality where those teams are all part of the same government forum designed to enact policy compromises.

GOP members in 2024 didn’t vote Harris simply because they never even heard from her.

Dems have failed to fight the growing false reality built against them. Not even daring to call Trump a bad name when he killed millions.

So the problem is simply that Dems have no accurate representation in this false reality. And it’s a reality that’s now consumed the world. Simple because algorithmic searching for information can be manipulated to present the results you want. So billionaires and their hedgefunds purchased the ways and means of every internet, telecom, media, and newspaper to make sure you never even know what’s real anymore. As whatever they want you to read about the world is the only thing their algorithms will provide you.

So we have farmers getting fucked by Trump while saying Biden and Harris did nothing. Despite Biden and Harris bending over backwards for them.

In this very thread we have someone telling me Biden was president in 2020. 5 years ago. Can’t remember president Trump telling us to eat horse pills instead of getting vaccinated.

This false reality is only enabled as long as the means of the people in it are being met. They no longer are. Trump made sure of it. Publically.

So now it’s really hard to lie to someone now they realize it’s not rain Trump is hitting them in the face with. Gotta have windows to get away with that.

He wasn’t. You’re completely and unquestionably wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.[a] (born November 20, 1942) is an American politician who served as the 46th president of the United States from 2021 to 2025.

This was less than 5 years ago my dude. Enough fingers on one hand to do the math working backwards.

You should, unquestionably, be able to remember Trump telling us to eat horse pills instead of getting vaccinated. Or injecting bleach into your skin instead of getting vaccinated.

Something that actually hurt and killed several people, and was tracked in reality. Something you clearly don’t participate in:

https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/updates-content/kstytapp2qfstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs

From the year 2020, proving you wrong again:

Accidental poisonings as a result of Americans ingesting bleach or other household cleaners spiked over March and April, nearly doubling as President Trump suggested the chemicals could be useful in fighting coronavirus infections.