Valve today (12 November 2025) announced their new Steam Machine (x86 CPU, 6x more powerful than Steam Deck) and Steam Frame (self-contained and PCVR streaming VR headset with ARM CPU & “FEX” translation of x86 to ARM) to be released in early 2026. No prices yet.

I’m trying to speculate what effects this will have on the wider Linux ecosystem. Both devices will be running Steam OS and be open so you can run any OS.

First, I’ve read many people state that the Steam Deck considerably increased the number of devices running Linux, so it seems to me that these two new devices will accelerate that trend.

Second, it seems to me that the Steam Frame will significantly increase VR use and development for Linux.

Third, I wonder what the implications of Frame’s x86 to arm translation layer (based on FEX, an open source project that I only learned about today) as well as Android compatibility (they state it can sideload Android APKs) will be. Could this somehow help either Linux on Apple silicon or Linux phone efforts? I’m very unfamiliar with what’s going on with either of these efforts, so I may be way out on a limb here.

What do you think about all this?

Edit: this article may prompt some additional thoughts with its discussion of the openness of the Frame - https://www.uploadvr.com/valve-steam-frame-catalog-whole-compatible/

  • MrKoyun@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Fınally, year of the Linux desktop is here!

    All 3 of the new hardware seems really cool. I’m very excited. These probably won’t be sold where I am, but I’m considering getting a steam controller from a 3rd party seller if it turns out to be cheap enough for me.

    I’m surprised that they kept the “Steam Machine” name. I thought they would choose a different name to avoid any negative connotations. It is a very cool name though.

    Also this goes to prove again that Steam/Valve is not a monopoly. If this “small” team of 350~ people in a private company can casually beat Microsoft’s market domination, Every other game launcher/storefront + The 17 Billion dollars Meta burned into their VR Hardware and “The Metaverse”, this is nothing but a case of crippling incompetence from their competitors.

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      I don’t think there are any negative connotations to the original Steam Machine. They weren’t successful, but in a way that was okay. They weren’t widely sold, and what most of the gaming public got out of the Steam Machine project was the Steam Controller, Big Picture Mode, and the Proton compatibility layer. Most Windows gamers didn’t notice, it was a major boon to Linux gamers, and then they came out with the Steam Deck which has been a genuine success.

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      10 hours ago

      Also this goes to prove again that Steam/Valve is not a monopoly

      How does a company announcing a new item for later release disprove its status as a monopoly? How does a game company designing a better product than a bumbling social media company disprove its status as a monopoly? Can you explain?

      Some 73% of developers see Steam as a monopoly

      Steam satisfies the FTC’s definition of a monopolist

      I’m not taking a stance on whether or not valve is a monopoly, but claiming that a press release for upcoming items (that have yet to even hit the market) disproves its monopoly status seems wrong.

      The fact that customers enjoy the products that a monopoly makes doesn’t disprove its monopoly status. It just proves there is still some ounce of good engineering winning over shortsighted financial decisions in Valve’s leadership.

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      I’m surprised that they kept the “Steam Machine” name. I thought they would choose a different name to avoid any negative connotations. It is a very cool name though.

      what negative connotations exsit for “steam machine”

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        They released a swath of “Steam Machine” devices about a decade ago through partnerships with companies like Alienware. I think the software implementation was poor, and I think the prices were exorbitant.

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    The biggest issue with Linux phones, is that basically every hardware manufacturer refuses to support Linux in any kind of way. Chipsets, and radios in particular. Linux itself needs a little optimization for mobile but it’s mostly hardware.

    It’s really difficult to port Linux to any android device, despite being perfectly compatible in every way outside of drivers.

    The x86 to arm is very cool. I do some stuff like this on my phone by running winlator. It works better on snapdragon because it has a better video translation layer.

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    are there any linux WMs that provide a good desktop experience with VR headsets yet? I’d love to get a niri like scrolling experience with goggles - although it would make meetings weird.

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    Huge win for Linux. Steam Deck was the first volley, but this hardware is an all-out assault on Windows’ gaming dominance. MS is asleep at the wheel and making worse and worse software. I’m a 20 year Windows user and I’m planning my exit. If I were a gaming executive, I would assume 5 years from now that a smaller percentage of Steam users will be on Windows than there are today. I would want a damn good reason for my company’s next game to not have full Linux support.

    Microsoft will either:

    • win through innovation
    • win through monopolistic practices
    • win through inertia
    • slowly lose by having a worse product

    My money is on #4. Windows will probably be the #1 desktop/laptop OS for the next 20 years, but we could enter a world where Linux and MacOS are each 10% or more of the market. Steam shows 95% Windows but that’s for a gaming-focused market.

    Valve isn’t perfect. They’re still a corporation. But if every company was as evil as Valve, we would achieve near world peace. They’ve contributed amazing things to open source through heavy investment.

    https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

    • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipOP
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      I’m a 20 year Windows user and I’m planning my exit.

      Hear hear. I’m a 35 year DOS -> Windows user (personally and professionally) and already actively working on my exit.

      I would want a damn good reason for my company’s next game to not have full Linux support.

      I think I remember reading comments indicating that lots of (indie?) developers are taking the strategy of ensuring that their games work well on WINE/Proton instead of specifically developing for Linux. That makes sense economically for a small company at this point. 5 years from now will probably be a different story than now though, like you said.

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        Embarrassingly, make a Windows 10-like OS. (More specifically, a window manager, probably.) Or have an affirmative vision for the future (non-Windows 95-derived) like Niri or (fascist-adjacent) Omarchy. 15+ years ago I booted my first distro. I ran Ubuntu with Unity on a side PC for years. Good for single screen use. I daily drove Debian for 3 months in 2018 but never got it to look more modern than Windows 2000. I never “enjoyed” it. This matches my thoughts. https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/10/deduplicating_the_desktops/

        Going to try out https://www.anduinos.com/ and Zorin. Have done distro hop roulette for months and a lot of them are unsatisfying. KDE looks close to how I want but runs slow e.g. https://lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz/post/58790510

        I’m big on super+arrow to move windows from one screen to another. I rarely need more than 4 active windows per display. But my big problem with tiling is that I like seeing the windows I have open at the bottom of my screen. (this was for my laptop but similar points https://lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz/post/58681232 )

        My side OS on my main PC is Mint with MATE, but I also don’t gel with it. Ran it on a family PC for years and it did the job for casual use. Random gripe off the top of my head I think applies in MATE: sorting is in byte order, not in brain order. Many linuxes sort 10, 1, 2 instead of 1, 2, 10. MATE and Xfce (iirc) have terrible file operation handling compared to Windows or (the gold standard?) Teracopy in Windows.

        Every default GUI archive/extract program in Linux sucks, that I could find. I prefer Peazip but even 7z-gui (the stock one) is good. Even native windows zip support feels more pleasant. This goes back to a bazzite/omarchy philosophy of shipping software that is good, instead of defaults that suck.

        Oddly enough I kind of respect AntiX + IceWM, as well as Lxqt / Lubuntu more than most of the crap modern WMs I’ve used.

        SSH key exchange / setup is a fucking nightmare and I don’t know why I’m copy pasting keys into text files or piping multiple commands together for the 50% odds that my OS setup allows it. I still don’t really understand the Linux threat model where passwords on a local account make sense. (Is it to prevent local scripts from escalating to admin?)

        I’ve run Linux servers for 5 years and I run WSL, but nothing clicks per se. I’m always more at home in Windows. Niri feels close to what I want, but too high a learning curve. I may make a post about it someday.

        https://social.linux.pizza/@BigHeadMode/114843921051139964

      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one
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        Don’t be such a ridiculous fucking hater you blind yourself to reality

        Barring literally everything else, this steam box shares its lineage with the Xbox, not Sony or Nintendo’s products. Speaking as one who ran xbmc on their classic first-gen it’s nice to see things coming full circle to “everything is just a media center pc, bitches”.

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    Maybe the Arch Linux “ports” RFC will finally be of use…

    Also, box64 works better in my experience when all of the depending libraries are installed properly, and they are guaranteed to be there in this scenario given that there’s the Steam runtime.

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    Steam Machine

    If the Steam Machine really takes off, I see way more people moving to Linux on their main rigs and laptops, and in turn making companies stop ignoring it, if it becomes a massive success I imagine:

    • Mainstream games like FIFA supporting Linux
    • Apps like Affinity Studio being distributed through Steam officially supported via Proton.
    • Epic games will be the last company to keep ignoring Linux.
    • Valve adopting Waydroid for SteamOS (for Netflix, Spotify, YouTube, etc)
    • NVIDIA will redouble their Linux efforts.
    • Greatest than ever VR support in Linux

    Steam Frame

    • Lots of Linux apps will work on Android desktop mode, like LibreOffice, Inkscape, etc.
    • Linux phones will receive a lot more maintainers and funding.

    Steam Deck

    • Android apps on the Deck via Valve’s Waydroid
    • Steam Deck 2 on ARM

    Other

    • New use cases for ARM will motivate RISCV to speed up it’s growth.
    • KDE & Arch will receive more funding from Valve
    • More contributions to the Kernel
    • More Linux developers
    • Increased security for Linux
    • Flathub will grow
    • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipOP
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      Very cool, thanks for your comprehensive predictions of effects of these new devices! I hope that a lot of that will come true.

      I hope a lot of those things will come true, but the one I am hoping will happen sooner than later is for apps like Affinity (and Vegas editor!) to improve/fix their support via WINE or Proton. Regarding Affinity specifically, I understand that they have made the entire suite free to use now, which I’m afraid may indicate that canva will slow down or stop its development.

    • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipOP
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      Absolutely! This has been one of the reasons for me holding out on Meta Quest despite really wanting one. Now, the zucc can bite my shiny metal ass.

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      19 hours ago

      Sorry to put you on the spot but I saw this countless time this morning after reading the news so I’m asking you :

      • did you buy a Lynx XR1?

      My point being that there already are standalone VR HMDs that do NOT need Meta and can be great to tinker. The example I share works, can be rooted and even run Linux proper (even though quite experimental) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Lynx_R1_(lynx-r1)

      So… it’s a nice thing to say, and yet please do not give your “money to the zucc” but also I believe that means there is something else people are missing, otherwise they’d have already made the move. I don’t mean this as a criticism, only to try to understand what that gap is.

      • Kefla [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Quite frankly, I’ve simply never heard of that. I tried one of the quests at a convention once and I was like “wait hold on, they’ve got the computer inside the headset? That’s awesome I want it” and then I learned it was Facebook so I lost interest

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          No worries, it’s quite niche even for XR professionals some are surprised to learn it even exists. So I’d put that on lack of communication from Lynx.

          Also FWIW for Meta/Facebook one can use a headset without any account now via PrivateQuest so if bought 2nd hand, not 1 cent goes to the zucc.

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        Can the XR1 work as non standalone like the Frame with the receiver? That’s the advantage for me, to have more processing power when I need/want it.

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    Steam frame could be big for vr on linux. Before steam deck came out I dualbooted windows for gaming because gaming didn’t work well on linux. Nowadays its great. Steam vr is super buggy on linux right now and doesn’t even have feature parity with steam vr on windows. Hopefully steam vr becomes good on linux because I would imagine the steam frame needs it to be good

    • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipOP
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      This is what I’m hoping for too. Thanks for providing your perspective from first-hand experience because I wasn’t sure about any of this VR on Linux stuff.

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    I thought it was obvious, 2026 is going to be the year of the Linux desktop.

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    If the Frame is as open as the Deck it will be the perfect device for VR devs to play around with and make awesome stuff with. i think one of the things holding back VR was that almost every headset was super locked down.

    If the Quests had been more open we’d have had much more experimental games. Maybe the Metaverse would actually be a thing. But Meta prefers to keep everything under their control not realising that this hampers development and adoption.

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        LLAMA if I recall correctly was closed source until the source code was leaked online. After that Meta decided to just open source it.

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        Hence, Zuckerberg has just recently fired most of the LLAMA staff, the lab’s leader is rumored to be leaving for their own startup, and the new lab where all the funding’s going is a bunch of tech bro egos that are pro-closed models.

        …And I suspect PyTorch is too “utilitarian” for Facebook’s leadership to draw enshittification attention.

        Llama was an anomaly, and it seems they’re done with that. Which is quite sad. But on the plus side, it could be a death knell for Meta (as all that ego in the new lab will be a catastrophe).

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          Pytorch being the defacto ML R&D language basically means that every ML engineer Facebook recruits is familiar with their workflows. This is an age old strategy in tech which goes back to the early days of Unix.

    • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipOP
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      Look at the article that I edited the OP to post. It sounds like Valve is intent on keeping this thing as open as possible. I agree that it could lead to really interesting developments, not to mention when you consider the SD card slot and the high speed accessory interface that will allow external cameras and who knows what else. This thing is going to be crazy.

      Interestingly enough, when Quest first released the hand tracking functionality I remember seeing some really interesting developments using that, but I guess the developers never took it all the way to publish games with those concepts.

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    The effort they are putting towards x86 emulation will definitely help the broader Linux community. I saw a bit about 24 min in on gamer nexas video. That would help down the line on all sorts of devices.

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      Yeah, pretty sure it was called “Fex” translation layer for emulating x86 binaries on ARM64. To me that was absolutely the biggest takeaway, because that’s a massive game-changer for eventually moving the industry away from x86 exclusivity and into wider adoption of other architectures.

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    Having a Linux machine, with decent hardware as a common target for developers will have huge implications for gaming in Linux. The SteamDeck has already inspired more devs to make native Linux versions of their games, rather than relying on Proton. This should expand the appeal for devs even more so