I miss presidents (and administration members) that, yes, would spin, but would also respectfully (and coherently) state their arguments and cases to the press.
This is what people voted for, precisely because they are tired of politicians who lie and spin. Wanting those in positions of power to “tell it like it is” comes from a genuine place of frustration to the democratic process.
But they aren’t telling it like it is. They just insult and harass you for asking anything that questions their rule.
Well, “it is what it is”, as they say over there. And they’re telling it.
I don’t disagree, but if the often excuse of “our hands are tied” in actuality means “we don’t give a fuck about you”, voters feel they might as well vote for the person who never even pretends to care to begin with. It’s a sign of voter apathy and loss of trust in the system.
You’re giving them way too much credit. They like Trump because his vocabulary consists of words a fifth grader would use, so they can actually listen to him without feeling completely lost and out of their depth (note: they’re still completely lost and out of their depth). There’s also a large subset of voters who treat politics like football and wouldn’t ever vote against their team.
They wished for honesty instead of pretty words. Instead they voted for badly worded lies. Definitely not an improvement over anything. At least you could bring retort to pretty words. This buffoon just turns into a child.
There is so much voter apathy. Voters don’t care anymore if the representatives-- who is supposed to represent them-- don’t care to begin with. Why vote for someone who keeps pretending, when you can elect someone authentic for better or worse?
Don’t want to eat poop? Why not vomit?
The fact that you’re continuing this point makes me feel like you’re an apologist to this administration. Do you feel that trading in a bad thing for an equally bad thing is progression? I would argue that it doesn’t matter why people have decided to vote in the way of Trump, it matters a lot what will happen after his term ends. Bringing the perspective of “Voters are just apathetic to the current system “ doesn’t bring into focus the real issues the country is grappling with. It is about lack of education, lack of resources, and people who are too distracted trying to survive, they cannot dedicate true cognitive function to much else. If you want to ignore all the systemic suppression and abuse- then yes; let’s focus on the more pressing matter, the fact that politicians come across as uncaring spin doctors.
I actually smirk everytime someone says I am being an apologist for making dispassionate analysis on a situation. It’s not apologia, it’s diagnosing a symptom. Voting for a crude politician is a protest vote on the false high brow-ing on the masses and sophistry of meanstream politicians, who always make up bureaucratic reasons not to actually do what their constituents want. It’s an implicit message on the politicians to do a better job on the issues you mentioned.
If you talk to many right wing voters, they are pretty articulate and smart, and actually agree on many left wing policies. Someone mentioned before that by his/her estimation, of the ten Trump voters he/she know, about four like Bernie Sanders. The real cause of the problem is class issue and voters want someone outside the status quo. Bernie and Trump are those options, but we know who won and favoured more by vested interests. At least the left is learning its lessons now with the rise of Mamdani.
Yes, and historically smart and articulate people aren’t subject to manipulation and propaganda.
You will be smirking for the rest of your life; because you are absolutely an apologist. The whataboutism doesn’t mean you are pinpointing a cause, it means you have acknowledged A cause. Unfortunately this world is rife with many people like you, who by making excuses for powerful and dangerous people feel as if it now follows the logic of life. I’m sure that plenty of people under the third reich also had justifications like this.
What I’m saying is nothing new. Political analysts including Zizek are saying the exact same thing. The implicit message of the analysis is for the politicians to listen to electorate and do a better job, and for the electorate themselves to hold their politicians more accountable, and stop marginalising the working class disaffected by outsourcing.
I want someone to clap back at him, call him a fat, demented jackass. Call him a piece of shit rapist. Sure that reporter will lose their job and white house access but they will find another job right away with an opposing publication, and if they set up a go fund me they’ll be millionaires
Reporter, asks a specific question…
The goddamned president of the United States of America: you’re a dumdum.
Yep. That seems about right after everything that’s happened up to now.
His temper gets worse every week. That’s a pretty sure sign of dementia - too many cells lost in the frontal part of the brain leads to deinhibition.
If Democrats were a real opposition party now would be a good time to start hammering on the 25th. All it takes is Vance plus a simple majority of the president’s cabinet (15 people total, 8 for a majority). They could start smearing Vance and every member of the cabinet for being responsible for letting a senile nearly 80 year old abuse the highest powers of state and sell favors to foreign countries.
Well, hang on a second there. That sounds like responsibility!!
All it takes is Vance plus a simple majority of the president’s cabinet (15 people total, 8 for a majority).
Oh, is that all? Maybe the Democrats are smart enough to know that Republicans will never willingly get rid of Trump. He’s their entire party. Or maybe they’re smart enough to know that Vance and half the Cabinet don’t give a fuck about Dems calling for the 25th amendment. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think Vance and the Cabinet are gonna be like “hey, you’te right Dems, never thought of that. We’ll do that now that you’ve suggested it”.
As usual, we hold Democrats to impossible standards and roll out the red carpet for Republicans.
The point is to make them look bad for not doing it and not as a way to actually make them do it. But I hope you feel better for getting that off your chest, or something. Sorry I didn’t vote hard enough from my blue city in my blue county in my blue state.
They are rapist and pedophiles. How does this make them look worse?
How’s screaming that they are all pedos working out? Because so far it looks like it doesn’t make any Republicans lose office. Dems need to play politics or go home.
So much cognitive dissonance.
You claim the democrats are failings to smear in some specific way that is nothing compared to what is already known.
You either think child rape isn’t worse or you didn’t think, refuse to think. You can only blame the democrats.
The difference between you and maga is unclear.
Ok, but the Dems only unite on losing so…
how does this help their cause?
The important part is that you managed to blame the democrats for what the republicans are failing to do.
If you think their job right now is to do fuck all and collect checks then I’m sure you have no complaints.
At this point, just run the country by LLM. It’ll hallucinate just as much, but at least it’ll do it while making a coherent sentence.
It will also be polite when called out for being wrong.
MechaHitler now runs the country
That would be easy to deal with, just continually distract it by leading it into ranting about that ‘kill the Boers’ or whatever song.
and somehow still an improvement
Not really. Trump’s incompetence is sort of a boon.
I think the government should be like jury duty. Just pick people at random to fill the various positions. It would be truly democratic and it can’t possibly be any worse than the current arrangement.
I don’t think Democracy means what you think it means.
I know it doesn’t mean what I think it means.
The monkey’s paw: Grok is now president of the United States.
The monkeys paw to your monkeys paw: they still just can’t get the damn thing to stop telling the truth and it is an ongoing embarrassment for Elon.
No, put a golden retriever in office instead. If nothing else, your foreign relations will improve dramatically.
I think if something like that ever happened then the USA would be nuked about five minutes later.
I’m not really pro LLM, but I don’t think there has been a time where they wouldn’t have made a better leader than Trump
Yeah, that’s my thinking too
I recall presidents standing during press conferences. Even the ones he called weak and old. Why is he always sitting lately? Is he old? Weak? Lazy?
Without looking into this I don’t know if this is an embellishment of what happened or if this is exactly what Donald said. That’s not a good sign. I fear this is exactly what was said.
It is verbatim
Trump is a stupid person.
this is the best he can do. Ad hominem attacks. He has no recourse, so he attacks people. He’s really pathetic.
Him and his supporters are too dumb to realize he actually did answer the question with this outburst.
He can get away with it because his opponents put the focus on him having dementia.
Aside the topic at hand, they are so pathetic. He is in mar a Lago and needs a desk to hide behind and that is what they come up with? A camping table with a piece Molton on it? It’s not as bad as the four seasons landscaping debacle but still pathetic.
FDR was more convincing.
well at least they’re not outside the sex shop this time
The art of the deal dude can’t deal with any push back.
The book was confirmed ghost-written. He didn’t even write that shit. There is no art of the deal.
Typical tactic of a stupid bully. Once cornered, move to personal attacks.
I mean, name calling is literally the very bottom of Graham’s heiarchy of disagreement.
No no, this graphic is clearly illustrating that name calling is the foundational first step upon which the rest of the argument is built, you ass hat
It seems like nothing but personal attacks at the moment, and I’m loving it
Trump asked more questions in this exchange
Is he stupid?
Yes.
another news to distract from epstein files, i noticed the news cycle recently stopped talking about it.
When the whole world smells like shit, blame Joe Biden. - Trump & his administration.
