Thing is, the German lutheran church is basically going all-in on being progressive and inclusive (relative to other churches anyway), they even do gay marriages now. And they’re still bleeding members like crazy, because Germans are becoming less and less religious.
Had a church ask us what brought us to the church. The cafe, popularity of the pastor, social meida advert, etc. We said to worshih god,
it was not on thier list as a reason to go to church
“To worship who? Oh, Trump! We need to add that on there.”
Orginized religion is dying, and it makes me hopeful for the future.
Unfortunately the ‘religion’ of believing and doing what awful people tell you on social media is stronger than ever, and only growing.
Nah
I like your optimism. I don’t share it, but I like it.
Lol had a convo with my fil where he complains about church numbers but is hugely vocal about not letting gays in. He just refuses to believe they could have any connection to his god. Then he also gets uppity if you weren’t baptized the “correct” way. Then says no one comes to church because they feel they would be judged. Like bro you are the one judging right now!
There are two types of churches out there in the US.
Tiny little congregations who meet up in an old gym or single-wide trailer and organize and connect community like humans have been doing for tens of thousands of years and have no goals beyond their faith and community.
And money-making grift operations who just want to fleece as many as possible by latching onto whatever controversial social issue can make people so inflamed and blinded with emotion that they hand over stacks of cash just to feel like they’re hurting the people that conservative media tells them they should hate. These churches come in all sizes and seem to vastly outnumber the other kind, because this tactic is so, so easy to pull off.
Who is Noone? Why is typing “no one” so difficult?
Autocorrect.
So autocorrect would correct “no one” to “noone” which isn’t a word? Help me out here.
The structure of the economy has changed fundamentally. And so the goals of these privately bankrolled institutions have changed with it.
Churches, as institutions, no longer aspire to maximize the number of middle class bodies in pews, because the middle class is no longer flush with surplus cash. Instead, they need to attract extraordinarily wealthy individual patrons to survive. To that end, church officials making a spectacle of casting out a single kid from a non-wealthy family for being “Woke” operates as a kind-of fundraising event for the patrician class.
Modern religious institutions don’t exist to tame and homogenize a frontier population’s moral code. They now serve to legitimize and promote high ranking officials as More Holy Than Thou. And as churches gain more roles of state government, its the public that has to ask special dispensation to join the church, not the other way around.
Just like how it was in the old days…
This catering to the rich and wealthy is exactly what caused the pilgrims to come to America (plus other things including the fact the pilgrims were religious extremists themselves). And now it is happening again.
The cycle or Religious bullshit must continue-
Don’t rainbows mean 👉 👌 ?
Not even. The rainbow was god’s covenant with man (or Noah, specifically) that he would not flood the world again in future hissy tantrums. Some wingnuts have not RTFM.
Well, okay. A lot of them.
Most, even.
Noah gay, lol
Modern religions … any and all modern religions are all the same now
They don’t worship a God … or Gods … or Saints … or prophets … or angels … or Holy Spirits
They all worship money and power … and their message is one of control and obedience, so that they can have all the money and power.
They’re all basically the same.
Pretty sure that’s also how religions were historically…
Yes, I really don’t like this new model of religion where people are more loyal to their priest than their god.
That would be crazy, as if we in the US were more loyal to the current president than the constitu-- ohhhh.
Always great when people see problems that are so old they are literally mentioned in the old testament and think that it’s a new thing that only emerged yesterday.
And even if you ignore the old testament, half of the gospels is Jesus fighting the Pharisees, which are exactly that.
That’s not as new as you would hope.
